• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    No restart require on Linux is a joke, right? Because I get updates that require restarts as often as I get them on Windows when updating Mint.

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      10 hours ago

      Unless you’re updating the kernel itself, there is little chance you actually need to reboot your machine. Just restarting whatever service or application you’re using should do the trick.

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        9 hours ago

        This is the same on Windows, you can just carry on and then complete an update when you go to shut down the machine. Can’t remember the last time an app install or update required the whole OS to be restarted immediately.

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          I remember what it’s called, but at some point there was an app for windows that would check if your machine actually needed a restart or not. Basically the “restart your machine” prompt is mostly just a boilerplate. It’s very rare that those installers touch anything that can’t actually be loaded without a restart.

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          7 hours ago

          Kde neon made me reboot Everytime it updated. Turns out there was a setting I could disable. Afterwards I was never bugged about rebooting.

          Used discover for updates

          Maybe you have such a setting?

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          10 hours ago

          You do you, it can’t hurt to reboot and work on a fresh restart. But if for some reasons you need to keep your machine up, you’ll know it is less of a problem than on windows typically

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      5 hours ago

      Yep. I’m on EndeavourOS which is about as far as you can get from Mint without going to like Slackware, LFS, or BSD. Basically every single run of pacman prompts for a reboot. I’m sure I could restart individual services or subsystems instead, but that’s not what the OS popup says.

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      8 hours ago

      Really? I need to restart my Windows less often, Fedora asks me every other day restart my PC to install updates

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          “Issue” implies that there is something wrong with it it’s simple a different release model, Fedora just got the newer packages, for example Gnome 43 on Debian vs Gnome 47 on Fedora (obviously I’m talking about the stable releases). If you prefer the Debian way of doing things that’s great but I don’t.

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      10 hours ago

      Besides a kernel update… Which one?

      Honest question, as I usually just restart to be sure I haven’t missed to restart a service or something, but theoretically I could restart every program and service, that got updated.

      Maybe Mint is very conservative here…

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          8 hours ago

          they’re not required, only the update manager thing wants you to. if you update via dnf you don’t need to restart 90% of the time

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          9 hours ago

          Ah yeah, mostly kernel module updates go along with a kernel update. But you are right, yeah.

          Although, should be possible to just reload the module and restart X/Wayland, no?

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      9 hours ago

      Afaik mint just says you have to restart but don’t forces you. Iirc it was there to avoud any glitches which could be caused by apps interacting with each other in different versions(say some system app got updated and desktop environment is still the old since its loaded before update then cause gui mismatch due to different versions of ui toolkit)

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        I mean, in this case Windows doesn’t force you to restart either, you can just keep chugging along with the restart icon at the bottom right… That icon can stay there for weeks on my girlfriend’s laptop

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        Redhat is not the original. Just of the ongoing projects, there is both Slackware and Debian, which are both older than Redhat. Redhat stands out because they are a commercial, for profit company, so they have more money and resources to invest in Linux development than most organizations, and they have a vested interest since it is their product base.