People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification.
Generally, people who don’t know how to work with the systems. As it relates to newer LLM search tools, not knowing how to prompt it correctly to get the desired output, knowing the limitations of LLMs to prevent you from doing something stupid, and knowing to check the sources that most of these LLMs provide before fully trusting the info it provides.
Normies are the ones microwaving their phones after 4chan encouraged them to which happened way before LLMs were spitting out sometimes bad info. Those are the same people who are going to eat glue or whatever the LLM says because it read too much Reddit.
People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification
This is you: LLMs are good, except they are enshittifying search, which follows from the fact that LLMs are bad. But actually, even though they are bad, I know how to use them, so LLMs are good, actually. Normies are dumb and I’m better than them and it doesn’t matter if search is good or bad, normies r dumb and normies will never learn to google good which they can learn from me, a LLM understander who is very smart
Its very subjective, google has been such a mess i have been trying every other alternative for years. None of them i liked and i begrudgingly settled for bing.
One of my main frustration is the over generalization of what they want me to click on. I try to find information about a thing and the top 5 are just stores that sell it instead.
Chatgpt has proven much more capable in finding very specific stuff. You can even ask what you do NOT want.
It does frequently hallucinate a website if you do get too specific but its not worse then all the dodgy crap sites you usually have to avoid in search. A non existing site cant attempt to steal my money or data.
People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification.
Generally, people who don’t know how to work with the systems. As it relates to newer LLM search tools, not knowing how to prompt it correctly to get the desired output, knowing the limitations of LLMs to prevent you from doing something stupid, and knowing to check the sources that most of these LLMs provide before fully trusting the info it provides.
Normies are the ones microwaving their phones after 4chan encouraged them to which happened way before LLMs were spitting out sometimes bad info. Those are the same people who are going to eat glue or whatever the LLM says because it read too much Reddit.
This is you: LLMs are good, except they are enshittifying search, which follows from the fact that LLMs are bad. But actually, even though they are bad, I know how to use them, so LLMs are good, actually. Normies are dumb and I’m better than them and it doesn’t matter if search is good or bad, normies r dumb and normies will never learn to google good which they can learn from me, a LLM understander who is very smart
You misunderstood me.
The enshitification I was referring to is the increasingly bad, non LLM search results Google is returning.
I’ve said this elsewhere but a good 90% of my searches don’t involve LLM results whatsoever.
Normies also don’t seem to know what should stay a “standard” search (most searches, IMO) and what might be useful to utilize an LLM for.
I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH.
nah, an aggressive response is me telling you to fuck yourself as I ban you for a second(!) time for making these exact terrible fucking posts
maybe by next ban you’ll figure out why your PRs keep getting closed
fucking imagine coming back to a place you’re not welcome with this “eeehhh you’re being a bit aggressive tbh” shit
That’s just googling with several wildly pointless extra steps of also googling.
Its very subjective, google has been such a mess i have been trying every other alternative for years. None of them i liked and i begrudgingly settled for bing.
One of my main frustration is the over generalization of what they want me to click on. I try to find information about a thing and the top 5 are just stores that sell it instead.
Chatgpt has proven much more capable in finding very specific stuff. You can even ask what you do NOT want.
It does frequently hallucinate a website if you do get too specific but its not worse then all the dodgy crap sites you usually have to avoid in search. A non existing site cant attempt to steal my money or data.
I’ve got nothing against people not using LLM search if they don’t find value in it.
That just doesn’t describe me or my experience with it.
To be clear, the vast majority of my searches don’t involve LLM results at all. But I’m glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful.
Such as?
I’ve used it for code, most often.
I’ve saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don’t really even know.
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