• 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    I bet those cows wanted some parts of Maslow’s needs as well.

    Why is your self-actualisation more important than a cow’s existence?

    Taste is not argument for carnism because it isn’t just to compare taste to right to exist.

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        2 days ago

        So? Humans have the ability intentionally NOT to kill animals for consumption and the ability to make up rights.

        The externality vs internality of rights discourse doesn’t externalise your personhood with rights.

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            2 days ago

            Is this SovCit meeting Stirner? Do I have to say the word?


            Following questions:

            Do you see yourself as human?

            Do you value your life and body integrity? Do you value life and body integrity of other beings, like friends?

            Do you avoid experiencing violence?

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                2 days ago

                They’re trying to expose you as a hypocrite for wanting things for yourself that you don’t care about others having.

                That said, not valuing rights seems a bit inconsistent with Marxism. IIRC it was the socialist states that insisted that the UN Declaration of Human Rights include such things as “education” and “housing” as basic human rights. Of course, every despotic regime in the world has signed up to that, so perhaps they were just being dishonest.

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                    2 days ago

                    Good faith, bad faith, that has no bearing on hypocrisy. And anybody can be a hypocrite regardless of their guiding philosophy.

                    You don’t believe in cows’ rights to, well, anything, because you don’t believe in rights. I don’t see you making any arguments about duties.

                    Hence we’re left with nothing but the potential for hypocrisy based on the golden rule, which pretty much everybody accepts.