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Nov 19 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden has approved provision of anti-personnel land mines to Ukraine, a U.S. official told Reuters, a step that could help slow Russian advances in its east, especially when used along with other munitions from the United States.

The United States expects Ukraine to use the mines in its own territory, though it has committed not to use them in areas populated with its own civilians, the official said. The Washington Post first reported the development.

The office of Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the Ukrainian defence ministry, the Russian defence ministry and the Kremlin did not immediately respond to Reuters’ requests to comment.

The United States has provided Ukraine with anti-tank mines throughout its war with Russia, but the addition of anti-personnel mines aims at blunting the advance of Russian ground troops, the official added, speaking on condition of anonymity.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    3 days ago

    The nature of landmines is that of an indiscriminate and long lasting danger. Do you really think that, once the war is one and it’s time for civilians to move back to the areas that war has displaced them from, Ukraine is going to dig them all up again?

    Yes, that’s literally what fucking happens. Planned UXO operations are already going to take decades because of all the mines that Russia has laid, including in civilian areas, but I’m sure that you’re just really concerned about Ukraine’s post-war UXO situation becoming worse by (checks notes) Ukraine laying mines it itself has recorded in non-civilian areas.

    This is some “Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were all great” type nonsense.

    Ah, the “Blockading Japan and having millions starve is the moral high ground” option.

    Dresden was bad because it did not have commensurate military value to the civilian destruction it caused, and bomber command was well aware of that.

    Oh they promised, did they? What a relief!

    Oh, so we’re going on the assumption that Ukraine doesn’t care about their own post-war situation despite all of their actions thus far pointing towards the exact opposite?

    Cool cool cool. Very paternalistic mindset, glad we’re still doing the “Noble Western Savior” thing in telling countries being genocided how exactly they’re allowed to defend themselves and accusing them of being savages if they disagree.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      3 days ago

      Ok, I see now that you have no interest in arguing in good faith, so I’m gonna leave you to it rather than wasting any more time on your absolutist credulity. Have the day you deserve.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        3 days ago

        Ok, I see now that you have no interest in arguing in good faith,

        Sorry that you don’t like being confronted with the fact that you don’t give a single fuck about Ukrainian lives and are just virtue signaling. But hey - have fun advocating for Ukranians to meekly submit to be massacred in order to take the moral high ground of (checks notes) not using explosives to stop the Russian advance. Really terrible stuff would have happened in this war if we allowed that, just absolutely exceptional suffering.

        Also, nice one on running from the fact that you accused the Ukrainian government of being ready to just mine their own land and leave it that way post-war. Keep up the good work, I’m sure Putin and all the other fascist fucks are very proud of you.