Loops aims to be an open Fediverse alternative to TikTok, Snapchat, and Vine. We take an early look at the app, and talk about what it’s like!

  • The Octonaut@mander.xyz
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    2 hours ago

    No source code and no federation just makes this a worse app with less liability for bad actions. Not sure why he’s pushing this before those are ready. Pixelfed itself isn’t exactly finished yet.

  • dudenas@slrpnk.net
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    5 hours ago

    If I understand it right… it will be much more costly to host videocentric platform than other types of content. A serious proposal for sharing the burden of hosting will likely be vital - through funding or decentralized storage/processing. Havent heard about that yet.

      • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
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        28 minutes ago

        The problem with Peertube, IMO, is you can’t just “join”.

        Pick an instance, it’s locked down. I get it, hosting others video content is costly and dangerous, but it’s also a huge barrier.

      • dudenas@slrpnk.net
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        5 hours ago

        not sure about peertube audience size, but afaik it does have a serious subsystem of resource sharing.

    • Sean Tilley@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 hours ago

      Object Storage is relatively cheap, and goes a long way towards affordable hosting. Processing video, on the other hand…

      • NickwithaC@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        The very first Youtube video is still up. Any serious competitor is going to need to offer that level of reliability with added benefits to woo users over.

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          3 hours ago

          have you considered that a platform for sharing short, vertical videos, developed by a single person, perhaps isn’t trying to become a “serious competitor” for Youtube?

        • Jake Farm
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          3 hours ago

          Loops isn’t competing with youtube. I doubt you would be able to find the first tiktok.

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      5 hours ago

      I wonder about this a lot. The little research I did suggested DigitalOcean is footing the bill for the moment (and also for Pixelfed? would love to hear more about this). Google, Facebook, TikTok, etc… have all managed to throw enough resources at similar products that people expect a level of performance that is very expensive to maintain. There is some serious hardware and distribution issues ($$$$) with trying to host an “instant and endless stream of short form video”.

      In a counter point though I think large instances like lemmy.world and lemmy.ml have found ways to survive and thrive and the fediverse generally seems to be supported in a very grassroots sort of fashion. Donations, patrons, people who have the hardware and bandwidth sharing what they can for the greater community. Perhaps loops will go the same way.

    • Sibbo
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      6 hours ago

      Yeah the app seems quite polished already around the video viewing experience at least. Wonder how it populates the default feed.

      • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        5 hours ago

        Yeah since there is little content I can’t tell if there is an algorithm or not.

        Edit; I tried posting myself to see and the “feed” is a “new” feed of posts by everyone. So no sort of algorithm at all or any customisation available atleast on the ios app, as of now.

      • Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de
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        6 hours ago

        I downloaded it without needing an account first (You do need an account to use the actual app), maybe just go on loops.video

  • Pasta Dental@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    The app is good, however what makes the other platforms good is their algorithm and the content that is available. If those are missing (and they likely will for privacy reasons) there’s little reason for me to use it instead of instagram reels or tiktok for example.

      • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
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        I mean… maybe? Those are nice things of course, but if I wanted to start using an alternative to TikTok I would never consider something without an algorithm. The whole point - for me at least - is to waste time eating digital slop served to you by an algorithm so that you don’t have to know what you want to watch when you sit down and open it up. If I already knew what I wanted to watch I wouldn’t be on an app like this, I’d be searching up the video or subject on another platform.