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For its first four installments, the Alienfranchise was most concerned with offering up a combination of horror and sci-fi action, and less concerned with delving into lore. Prometheus, however, goes in a different direction, and Scott uses the prequel to explain the origin of the Xenomorphs and the Engineers. Though the film earned generally positive reviews and has a 73% score on Rotten Tomatoes, these explanations demystified the franchise, a move that, in addition to a focus on David (Michael Fassbender), an android, proved controversial.
I’m in the minority, but I like the lore provided by Prometheus and the movie.
The Alien movies didn’t come across as mystique to me rather that they left me hanging too much on a lot of background.
I liked Prometheus, and I enjoyed the one after it a lot more. But they were both mixed bags, the horror was half assed and the im14andthisisdeep parts weren’t thought provoking at all.
But yeah the lore is fine, imo.
I think the problem with the two movies (Pro. & Sequel) was mainly that it didn’t give enough. So much lore was left unsaid or in 15-30 second scenes which while extremely carefully laid out and awesome, felt too divorced from the plot for the average viewer.
The story and ideas were great. I loved the abortion. Michael Fassbender was appropriately creepy.
However, this is the movie where the Prometheus School of Running Away came from.
Prometheus is a great example of “what could have been”. Great themes, fantastic visuals, some cool ideas, but… I don’t know what the word/phrase is but the people, their motivations and actions are almost all just ridiculous.
To call it all off, they just abandon the interesting potential they set up by killing Shaw, all the engineers, and basically repeating the movie in covenant.
I loved the abortion
I could not suspend reality enough to believe she would be up and running around and fighting moments after having her abdomen slit open. Have you ever helped someone recover from a cesarean?
I was able to handwave it away with the future robot injecting deus ex machina into the wound.
Many of us were not
Man, I tried. But after being cut open like that IRL, I just couldn’t. It’s like having a broken limb.
Forget the pain altogether, shit just doesn’t function when your tendons and bones are cut and snapped.
I’ve had gut surgery, split wide open, couldn’t suspend disbelief on later views.
But in the theater! LOL, my wife was pregnant with #2 and was seriously unhappy. “Why did you make me watch that?!” Uh, I didn’t know?
Even better, she was pregnant with #1 when we saw The Mist and all the baby spiders exploded.
She always said she was gestating an alien. 🤷
I still maintain that Prometheus was god enough, and hypes were still high for Covenant. And I liked the earlier concepts they had, but killing off whats her face before the movie even began and going in the direction they did made Covenant much worse than it could have or should have been. I still haven’t seen the new one.
That was one of the stupidest movies I’ve ever seen. It’s very difficult to believe that it was created by the same person who created Gladiator.
Ridley did say he was asleep at the wheel when making this and the people around him who are supposed to be bringing to his attention how bad it was were also also at the wheel and no longer work for him.
Not sure if he was blaming them for it or just explaining what was going on when it was made
Wasn’t this supposed to be a trilogy? We got Covenant, where’s the third movie?
I’m case you are honestly asking, it came out in August. Aliens: Romulus
Romulus is not a prequel though
Oh, I didn’t think that was it.
I thought Ridley Scott was supposed to direct all 3 prequels and that Romulus was set after Alien 3
I think the chronology doesn’t make it less of a trilogy, even if confusing.
Not sure about him supposedly directing them out just being involved was intended.
I think he just wanted to be get involved more in the direction of the franchise but am not certain
Huh. Yeah I haven’t followed it that closely, but I seem to remember talk around the releases of those movies that they were part of a trilogy of Ridley Scott directed prequels.
Maybe I’m misremembering, and I haven’t seen Romulus yet, but it doesn’t seem like part of that trilogy from the trailers. 🤷♂️
I also🤷♀️ :p
Yeah, after Aliens (I like it better than the first one) the franchise went downhill. I still like the newer movies, but that James Cameron guy really seems like he knows a thing a two about how to make a good movie.
Monsters remain scary as long as the audience doesn’t know much about them because the imagination is always scarier than the reality. Giving them a backstory was a dumb move, not helped by the writing being absolutely fucking abysmal, but that’s always been Ridley Scott’s achilles heel. Give him a great script and he’s one of the best directors around.
Prometheus was a good movie, all those purist haters should shut up and let the man make movies.
It was good. Until it wasn’t.
Ridley Scott knows he made a shit movie.
Shut up and let the man make movies.
I like to go into a movie with as few expectations as possible and hear as little about it as possible. This has never bit me in the ass as hard as Prometheus. I don’t like horror(?) movies, haven’t seen any other Alien movies, and had assumed it was about Greek Mythology. 😆
The fact that black goo “eats” other life to “grow” implies that this Engineer on, according to the article, ancient planet Earth wasn’t just planting life. Also, there was almost no lava on Earth so it would be some recent geological time. I can only accept that he was planting human-like Intelligent life, perhaps our species itself. I liked it because it seemed to align with creationist myth and that’s a huge cultural mashup to me.
Anyway, I tend to overthink…
There’s another ‘fact’ taken for granted by this article that I can’t quite follow. They say the Engineer was acting on its own and this was a negative behavior in their species, a bit of a paria. What sustains such claim?
PS. I only saw Aliens (1986) and Prometheus. Not a fan of horror, but SciFi.
