• مهما طال الليل@lemm.eeOPM
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    The Democrats won’t even symbolically support the Palestinians’ right to self-determination, even on their way out after losing an election!

    OOF!

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        They at least didnt recognize the settlements which Trump is doing. So dont do the both sides bullshit.

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          There’s no reason for Biden on the way out to not pause all weapons from the US to Isreal. The UN gave Biden an opportunity to let Palestine become internationally recognized before Trump takes office. Biden still said no to both. Even if Trump could reverse those changes, Biden would have saved some lives.

          Biden is a devout Catholic, so that means he believes the rapture can’t happen until Isreal is home to all jews. Of course zionest don’t believe that, they are just taking Christian fundamentalist fever dream and using it for colonizing Palestinian land. An aspect of this whole conflict people aren’t talking about.

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        First I’m not Muslim and I wasn’t banned the last time Trump was president. Second and far more important, as bad as a ban is, it is still not as bad as genocide. I’d rather be banned than killed.

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          If you think the genocide will stop when Trump is in the white house again, boy do I have bad news for you.

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            I never thought that, I voted for Jill Stein.

            Either Gaza lives like the rest of the world, or the rest of the world lives like Gaza. No third option.

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              So, the spoiler candidate touting Russian propaganda? I really don’t see how helping an autocrat gain power by not voting for the only viable opposition, and in turn likely ending up giving Israel even more aid and approval to escalate their genocide, is going to help anyone in Gaza or even the Middle-East.

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                1. Harris just like Trump was going to continue the genocide. The fact that Democrats can’t even acknowledge the Palestinians’ right to self determination proves this, that is if the last 13 months weren’t enough proof that it is the Democrat’s genocide.
                2. You could add all third party votes, not just Jill Stein, and Harris still wouldn’t have won. Not that we owe the Democrats our votes, they have to earn them. I gave them a chance, contacted my representative multiple times, what else was I supposed to do? The DNC wouldn’t even allow a Palestinian American lawmaker from Georgia on stage.
                3. The only propaganda people in the US are victims to is Zionist. AIPAC is publicly buying US politicians Democrats and Republicans. I am not voting for AIPAC whether raspberry or blueberry flavoured.
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          Dont worry. Trump is doing both. And recognizing the settlement build on your grave. If you didnt vote for Harris you ruined any chance Palestinians had of ever knowing peace since now there wont be free elections anymore

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            But the current Democratic administration have made it clear that they don’t see Palestinians as humans worthy of self determination. The DNC wouldn’t even allow a Palestinian American representative from Georgia to speak on stage. That’s a state the Democrats needed to win.

            The US was never a good faith partner in the peace process. It is probably for the best that the rest of the world realizes this and act accordingly. Who else but Trump could galvanize the rest of the world to oppose the US?

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            Not for nothing but Harris and the Democrats were very clear that supporting Palestine was never ever on the table in any way whatsoever. So I don’t know why y’all keep talking about this as if it was a choice between helping and not helping.

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              With the dems there is aid for gaza at least. Trump vetoes that. And with the dems there is democracy, meaning the chance for someone who will help in the future. With Trump there is not since there wont be anymore free elections so any chance of a candidate that wants to help is dead.

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                Someday maybe someone will help in the future? I’m sure that must be extremely reassuring that in five to nine years there might be someone to throw flowers on the mass Graves.

                Also Dems are fine with aid being blocked.

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                As a person that’s close to the matter - there is no aid for Gaza and you are saying le’bullshit. Any avenues we had were blocked one by one. Even shit like doctors getting medicine in their own backpacks / carry luggage, instead of personal belongings. Democrats aren’t “pro Palestine a little bit” they support the genocide.