I watched this recent video by Dogen about how immigrants should adapt to Japanese life etc.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_tXp5sFlHQ

One of the things I found odd was that he mentioned “eating while walking” as one of the offensive behaviors foreigners should stop doing. Many of the other examples made sense to me, but for this one - I never thought this was “rude”, rather “odd”. Thinking about it, I had a few conversations about this over time, but never got negative vibes for it (at least directly). Might be that people don’t want to tell me it’s rude, but I also got no negative opinions about it from people who lived abroad for a while (and thus are maybe better at communicating with foreigners) and/or are usually more upfront with me.

So my current understanding: It’s odd but not rude. Thankful for any further insights.

  • udon@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    Hm, I guess it’s hard to get a conclusive perspective on this, because I still don’t see what the “generally frowned upon” claim is based on. I mean, making phone calls on the subway would be a clear breach of norms and people would confirm that to me. There are also announcements/signs that make this explicit. Parents teaching it is such an explicit thing, this is the first time I heard that.

    OTOH, I got a friendly comment one time for eating ice cream while walking around Tokyo. An elderly man used this as a conversation starter (and to practice some English, I guess). Sort of: “Ah, the foreigners really do that, like in the movies”. We had a nice little conversation after this, so it didn’t seem to be ironic either.

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      2 months ago

      You definitely get stares when you do, but as a tourist it’s hard to know exactly how one sticks out from moment to moment.

      But, in a communally minded culture, what that man did was to recognise you as breaking the norm, and even telling you that what you did is near unheard of in their culture.

      That’s akin to you being indecent, although harmless, in public; like a naked toddler running around in a park (in my culture at least). And the man was (mildly) telling you off, in a respectful and cirsumspect manner as to let you save face.

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        2 months ago

        I’m not a tourist and I’m pretty sure that’s not what was going on. More of a “oh, a foreigner, let’s practice English!” kind of situation

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I can’t say why for sure, but the Japanese place a lot of importance on ceremony for mundane tasks, adding order and meaning to every day life. Eating is an important part of life, and I’ll bet that they don’t appreciate people taking it casually. It’s just a guess, but it’s a guess based on my understanding of Japanese culture.