Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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    Okay, then prove that something happened. I’m not the one implying she’s some sort of Russian asset with 0 evidence beyond a photo. That’s you.

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      I don’t have to prove anything happened. She was put at a dinner table with Putin in Moscow. Something that only happens if Putin finds you useful. He doesn’t sit at random tables and strike up conversations with whoever he finds.

      You put the rest together.

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              Had to reach pretty far back for that one.

              Look. Nobody here is saying that the Democratic party is perfect. In fact, most of us are aware it sucks too. But, while we live in a democracy with an electoral college, and a two party system, we vote for the candidate who has the most chance of making a good change (but also has a chance to win). Even if Stein won, and she’s the perfect person with all the perfect ideals and policies, she still wouldn’t be able to do shit as president, because the president can’t do anything significant without support from the house. IIRC there’s not a single green party member in the house to support her. She’d be dependant on the DNC for anything that isn’t awful.

              Since she only pops her head out for presidential elections, and doesn’t seem to ever do anything to grow her party in the house, I don’t see this ever changing until someone who actually has the chance to win (due to the aforementioned electoral college) comes in and could be persuaded to make changes like ranked choice voting, etc.

              There’s no such thing as the perfect president, certainly can’t be perfect for everyone. But if you have morals, and it seems like you do, how can you ignore the fact that you’re throwing out your vote for someone who can’t possibly win, in turn depriving a better candidate of your vote, when you know all that does is increase Trump’s chances, and Trump will be worse on everything you care about?

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        Your evidence for Jill Stein being bribed by Putin in her sitting next to a German ambassador at a table, and Putin sitting down in a seat at the other side of the table?

        The Democrat misinformation campaign is in full swing here.

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          I said nothing about bribery.

          Why are you making up lies about me?

          Also, pretending that Putin and his cronies just sat down at a random table where Jill Stein happened to be sitting is silly and I think you know that.

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        You made the assertion, so the onus is on you to prove it.

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          I did in my previous comment. You just don’t like the fact that you are only put at a table with the extremely calculating dictator of Russia unless he has good reason for you to be there.

          And if you expect me to prove that about Putin, you’re just a troll.

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            Calling me a troll is an incredibly convenient way for you to get out from under the burden of proof here. Kind of hard to have a discussion with someone if they’re just going to call you a troll when you ask them to provide proof of something they’re claiming.

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              Yeah, it is hard to have a discussion with someone under those circumstances. But when you refute widely known information because they don’t have an affidavit, you get called a troll.

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                If it’s widely known, then surely you can provide evidence for it right?

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                    They just compared this with Hillary Clinton at a table with Putin at a state dinner with her husband.

                    So I’m out.

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                    I’m not answering how old I am because that’s none of your business, frankly. You can call me an idiot or a troll, I don’t really care. I just asked for proof of something and so far all I’ve gotten are replies about it being self-evident because “that’s how Putin works” or other various forms of non-proof.