Denuvo’s quest to improve its reputation with PC gamers is personal.
denuvo is hostile and toxic program
It’s because we fucking hate you, Denuvo.
And just like that my opinion of the steam forums skyrocketed.
I’m with the company for such a long time," said Ullmann. "The guys here are like my family, because a lot of the others here are also here for ages. It just hurts to see what’s posted out there about us, even though it has been claimed wrong for hundreds of times.
It hurts???
I understand he’s being paid to gobble corporate dick, but at least try to mask it like most people do lmaoYou couldn’t pay me to embarrass myself like this
https://www.pcgamer.com/a-great-day-for-drm-as-denuvo-lapse-renders-tons-of-games-temporarily-unplayable/ - how does this make games better?
Sometimes some people need to get bullied
Very toxic, and very hostile if you do stupid, dumb corpo bullshit. Fuck this guy.
You know, i prefer my cyberpunk dystopias to be ballsy enough to just say it with their chest. You’d never catch Lofwyr groveling like this.
I’d also very much prefer dragons, or at least technological implants, but whatever.
Fuck Denuvo. DRM does not benefit the gamer. Period. No amount of gaslighting will change that.
The upcoming Dragon Age: The Veilguard will somewhat surprisingly not use Denuvo at all
There’s the tell. Publishers might start listening to their customers, who generate income, rather than their vendors’ sales personnel, who create expenses. He’s panicked over a potential existential crisis.
Huh. This is literally the best advertising veilguard has ever had.
Imagine someone punches you in the mouth and then when you get pissed off and say mean things, they call you “toxic” and “hostile”. Like bitch, you created this situation.
Oh look, Denuvo playing the victim.
And it exemplifies rather well why I hate the word “toxic”: bad reputation? Toxic! Criticism? Toxic!
Bullshitting like «it’s in part because it “simply works” and would-be pirates are trying to make it unattractive to game publishers by disparaging it.»? Noooo that is not toxic because it aligns with the discourse that Denuvo wants to spread, right?
“I’m with the company for such a long time,” said Ullmann. “The guys here are like my family, because a lot of the others here are also here for ages. It just hurts to see what’s posted out there about us, even though it has been claimed wrong for hundreds of times.”
"Insert personal story to make it look like you aren’t criticising software; no, you’re criticising a family. You monster~
When a plant or an animal is toxic, very often it’s a defense mechanism.
You can be a great person and still write garbage software. Whether you’re just doing it because you need money or whether you’re misguided and think it’s actually good, that doesn’t necessarily make you a bad person (and remember: It’s hard to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on not understanding it).
Doesn’t make the software less garbage.
A person is good or bad depending on their impact on the people around them; as such I don’t consider “misguided” a valid defence.
And while someone can be overall a good person while writing socially harmful and user-hostile software, because they have other qualities that compensate it, writing said software still makes them a worse person.
It’s hard to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on not understanding it
So it’s hard to be good when your salary depends on you being bad.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m analysing this through my moral views, but I don’t think that they’re the only valid ones. Your mileage may vary.
My other comment was mostly on how idiotic the whole defence is, not about morality (as this one).
I was responding to the “Look, they’re all nice people” defense you quoted, not contradicting you. I agree with you in principle.
I don’t consider “misguided” a valid defence.
My view of morality is largely centered on intent, so “I thought it would be a good thing” is a valid defence (though there is also a degree of responsibility to check assumptions; if you never made any effort to check if it actually is a good thing, that’s negligence)
So it’s hard to be good when your salary depends on you being bad.
…and by extension, when your livelihood depends on you being bad, yes. Not everyone’s livelihood depends on their salary, but for many people it does. If it’s hard to find a job that can pay the bills, I don’t fault people for the human reflex of justifying bad things to yourself in the name of survival.
(But if they do have a choice and choose to enrich themselves at the expense of others, they’re obviously pricks - just saying this might not apply to all the devs involved here).
That’s fair - and it’s clear that your moral premises are, like, diametrically opposed to mine (I completely disregard intent - for me responsibility takes the job).
I was aware that you weren’t contradicting me but this sort of discussion is fun, sorry!
it exemplifies rather well why I hate the word “toxic”
I mean it can be abused just like any other adjective…
Most people that i know that use the word toxic, are the things that they mean when they say toxic. Its a worthless word in the contexts its being used in.
Denuvo has the reputation it has for a reason, and labeling their critics (most of the gaming community) as salty pirates is not going to help them any.
When it comes to performance claims, why on Earth would I believe the salespeople for Denuvo over the people forced to play with it? The former has every inventive to quash any and all claims of causing performance issues.
Have you tried not hurting game performance?
Better yet, have they tried not fucking with gamers’ property rights by shutting down their criminal company?
