• LePoisson@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    the majority of the homeless have mental health issues where they don’t understand what’s going on 99% of the time.

    Just … No. Obviously fake and pulled straight out your ass.

    what’s to stop me, someone who’s living outside of my means but still not making much money at all from just quitting my job and having free rent and all day free rather than 99% of my day spoken for and still losing money?

    Well, presumably, the fact that you’d like to have money to do other stuff? Or to have a nicer place to live? Maybe you want to drive a nice car? Honestly the lifestyle you can sustain on government assistance is not going to be fancy.

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      Just … No. Obviously fake and pulled straight out your ass.

      I’m going to type out a literal word for word exchange I had with one of them on the rapid last night.

      “Did the Indians win last night?”

      “They didn’t play. They’ve been eliminated from the playoffs a few days ago.”

      “But did the Indians win?”

      “No. They’re eliminated.”

      “But did they win last night???”

      “NO! THERE WAS NO GAME, BECAUSE THEY WERE ELIMINATED.”

      “BITCH I AIN’T ASK ALL THAT! DID THEY WIIIIN???”

      “HOW CAN THEY WIN IF THEY DON’T PLAY???”

      “So they beat the red necks?”

      At this point I’m not even sure what he’s implying or asking. The 4 teams in the ALCS and NLCS were the Guardians, the Yankees, the Mets, and the Dodgers. No clue who the “Rednecks” are in that scenario.

      You tell me this guy has ANY clue what’s going on around him.

      Well, presumably, the fact that you’d like to have money to do other stuff? Or to have a nicer place to live? Maybe you want to drive a nice car?

      Right now I’m making $12 an hour, which is the most I’ve ever made in my life. I’m 41, never even attempted to get a drivers liscense, and I live in a 1 bedroom apartment thats about as cheap as you can get in this city, and it STILL costs $850. So that $12 an hour is making me negative money. My fridge is empty. It’s BEEN empty. And even though I only work 7 hours, with work travel, it’s 13 hours of my day. So I don’t even have time to get a 2nd job.

      So tell me again how THIS is going to be worse conditions than getting free housing without worrying about rent?

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        2 months ago

        I think they were mostly pushing back on “most homeless” being that way.

        Most homeless you don’t see on the street. They’re living in their car, or couch surfing, or otherwise without a proper home but still working and struggling. These people just need a bit of a break to get back on their feet. All the successful pilot projects I’ve seen target these people and give them a bit of a boost, and since they’re just down on their luck and trying, that boost is all they need.

        The ones you’re describing are the entrenched homeless: those who have additional problems, like drug addiction, antisocial behaviors, and severe mental health problems. They live on the streets and in shelters. These are the small minority of homeless, but the ones that everyone pictures when they think of homeless people because they are the visible ones.

        All that said, your situation sounds miserable! I sincerely hope that you’re able to make a change and break through. You might not have the energy, but you must qualify for some sort of assistance whether that be aid in getting a better job or help paying your bills or other help, and if your fridge is empty hopefully your city has a food bank (the ones in my area will even deliver a care package if picking it up is a burden).

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        2 months ago

        Ok your sample size of one person confused about the baseball schedule isn’t exactly saying they have no idea what is going on. Nevermind how absurd it is to extrapolate that to 99% of homeless folks.

        Also, yeah it sounds like you’re exactly the person I think we should hand assistance to, have a free apartment for a year while you figure shit out. Or hell, forever, you’ll just spend your extra money in the local economy anyways so it’ll be good.

        You want to get different place, need more money, I’m just saying that as a fact not like saying it’s easy. It’s damn hard out there.

        It’s crazy to me it takes you 3 hours to commute one way though and you do that daily. I mean, idk your situation but I feel like there must be something closer that pays the same or better. That’s just an insane amount of time to spend just getting to work, you’re saying you literally only spend about 10% more time working than you do travelling to the job.

        Anyways, yeah you’re just convincing me that our minimum wage should be increased. Also, if you’re single and making $12 an hour in the USA - you’re probably really close to or even at qualifying for food assistance. Don’t be afraid to get help, you’re worth it.