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    2 months ago

    As all the cool kids keep saying, now is a great time to try out Linux.

    No, I’m not recommending a distro for you, that is what DuckDuckGo is for.

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        Ubuntu is actually falling down the ad hole lately. It’s not great, even if you leave out the technical issues that the distribution leans into these day (snaps, amongst other things)

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            In the system update dialog, you’ll see something like:

            You’re not getting 53 critical security updates! Join Ubuntu Pro to keep yourself safe!

            Ubuntu Pro is a subscription service.

            This is seriously at the level of Norton “AntiVirus”, and it’s truly absurd and nakedly predatory.

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              It’s free for personal use though. Canonical have turned ubuntu rather corporate, but let’s stick to the facts.

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                Fair point.

                Counterpoint: why should I be compelled to give Canonical literally anything besides using the package manager to say “I’m using your software and I want the update”? Why do we need this additional new corporate-authorized side channel? What benefit does this yield, outside the realm of profit?

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                  I agree.

                  They’re a for-profit company, ubuntu pro is supposed to entice business customers. You and I get introduced, because canonical hope that we might use ubuntu profesionally and they gain a new customer. I don’t hate it personally, but I see why people don’t like it.

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              Wait, they’re withholding security updates unless you pay? Hope they go bankrupt.

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          does kubuntu have the same issues? kinda want to go for a debian or ubuntu based kde distro and kubuntu is always highly recommended.

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              way too difficult to set up, i don’t have a lot of free time so i need an “out of the box” distro

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                  Seconding LMDE, been on it for a year on my study laptop. Literally never ever had a problem so far, and being an “out of box” distro there’s minimal work needed to daily drive.

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                  i currently use mint and only want to switch because cinnamon has this weird thing when you have a game running, window resizing is laggy. i often have btd6 running when I’m working so it bugs me. kde doesn’t suffer from that.

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                  2 months ago

                  never heard of this one. definitely going to try it!

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                Debian is honestly pretty trivial to set up these days.

                If you’re open to trying Fedora, I’ve been running F40KDE and Kinoite on two of my main personal laptops and I love them

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                  i have tried fedora and nobara a few times but they randomly make my hdd unmountable and it’s difficult to get it back. even after installing a different distro.

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        Not sure I’d want to see that, tbh. It would only introduce more avenues for DDG to make questionable choices when they’re already on thin ice.

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            2 months ago

            Can you only get hard by trolling? Or are you just really seriously lonely and depressed?

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                AIDS? So sexual frustration is definitely a key part of your pathology. Interesting.

                Tell me, how often do you think about close female relatives of yours? Are you mostly imagining hurting them, molesting them, or both?

                I’m betting it’s both.

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                    I’m sensing genuine hostility here, so clearly I struck a nerve.

                    Tell you what, I think that’s enough introspection for today, I’ll let you get back to finding sexual release through trolling.

                    Honestly, I think that’s probably healthier than whatever you had planned for that female relative of yours. If this helps keep her safe from your instability and acting on fantasies of violence, sexual or otherwise, I think you should keep on trolling.

                    Godspeed my sick little buddy, godspeed.

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      No, I’m not recommending a distro for you

      Don’t worry, everyone else does

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      Can you run windows games on linux without it being resource intensive like using a vm or something?

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        Gaming in Linux on a windows VM isn’t viable for most systems. Most games run really well through proton with little to no effort. Some even run better on Linux than on windows. You just can’t play a lot of the most popular competitive online games because it flags their anti cheat.

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          It definitely depends on the game and the particulars of your own system.

          The answer to the question is a resounding “you’ll have to try it for yourself”. It could be flawless, it could be a nightmare, there’s a lot of variables.

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        Running software designed and compiled only for XYZ system is always going to incur overhead when translating or emulating to ABC system.

        Game authors and publishers who only build for Windows are giving users a big middle finger and essentially saying “You must suffer through Windows in order to enjoy our product hassle-free lol”.

        What worked for me (which may or may not work for others) was to wean myself away, at first with only playing games that were built natively for linux.

        Then moving the line in the sand to only DRM-free native linux builds.

        Then advancing to only open source games.

        These days, I just don’t even play games and I find that it really frees up what kinds of things I want to do on my computers, such as daily driving exotic CPU architectures (and also I have so much more free time for actual meaningful pursuits like learning new skills).

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        Many distros nowadays have decent support forngaming accessories and a mix of Lutris and Steam/Proton have given me a near seemless experience on Linux. Smooth enough for my partner to hop ship to Bazzite for their ROG Ally.

        Sometimes there are small quirks, like controllers on Bazzite just work™ but on Vanilla OS 2 my xbox controller wouldn’t be recognized by Steam or games wirelessly (wired worked) but my DS5 controller worked flawlessly (including the trackpad that I never got to work on Windows).

        Most of the Steam library will work well and ProtonDB is a great resource for compatibility. Furthermore there are Decky plugins for setups like Bazzite and Chimera that embed the ProtonDB rating into the Steam game page.

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      Actually to find a good distro and instructions on how to install them i recommend using an ai chatbot.

      Majority of people have never created a bootable media but its easy enough ai can guide them step by step.

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          I love how they make people choose their distro rather then “ubuntu or bust” they still used ubuntu for their guide but yk it doesn’t matter that much

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        Eh, just look up a reputable YouTube channel and guide. Chatbots can randomly make dumb mistakes that a total newbie won’t recognize, potentially causing them a lot of headache.

        And no, I’m not one of those diehard anti-AI people. My work has its own custom GPT model and I utilize it almost daily for menial tasks. But even having it generate script boilerplate and whatnot, I sometimes notice it writing stuff that won’t work and/or does it in a really verbose/weird way.

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          You cant ask a youtube channel what distro best suit your specific usecase.

          Also realistically no one wants to sit trough a video to check out a strangers recommendation for linux.

          I do get that people are worried about the incompetence of AI but this topic and procedure is so bog standard i have more faith in chatgpt doing it then a human.

          If you dont believe me, try it.

          Ask chatgpt/claude/gemini “How to make a bootable linux media from windows” you will have to spend a long time trying before you find it fails on something this boilerplate.

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            You don’t need to ask, as there are tons of well made videos giving great breakdowns of the most popular distros and the pros/cons of each while also showing demonstrations of a user session within them. To me, that’s far more informative than a broad, generalized typed paragraph. However, I will concede that I’m more a visual, hands-on learner, so this is subjective.

            And I agree, creating a boot disk is very simple and straightforward. The likelihood of GPT/Gemini getting it wrong is low. Especially Gemini/Copilot, as they basically just regurgitate the top tech site articles in this context and will cite the links it used (e.g. stack exchange, Tom’s hardware, etc). But like I said above, it can still happen, so why not just look up the source material for something so simple? I doubt any time is really saved by using AI in this instance. Not to mention, if you’re more of a visual person, it’s nice to see someone else give a demonstration.

            To each their own, though. Neither method is necessarily the wrong/better one.

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              It’s crazy how different people are. The idea of sitting through a video to do something like this is so painful to me. Like I find it useful for physical things where seeing the motion can be helpful, but I still generally find doing things that way awful. Please, please, please just give me written instructions for things. Especially if I’m going to need to refer back to it a few times (e.g. there are multiple steps that take a bit of time).

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                It depends on the context for me. Repairing/replacing something on like my lawnmower or car? Video all the way. A simple CLI command/process? A quick write-up is often preferred for me.

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        Do chatbots provide accurate and safe instructions for all steps? Or will it mix different instructions for different scenarios?

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        Ai is not that good unless it’s like hugginchat where it scraps sites for info and stuff

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        I dislike AI but I think you’re unfairly downvoted. I find it helpful for ensuring I’m taking care of necessary steps in a common, low-stakes procedure. It’s useful to generate sequences of terminal commands as well, though it’s important to check and understand what you’re doing.

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          People are right to be worried and skeptical about AI

          I honestly have gotten to hate how incompetent it often is because i do regularly try to squeeze something actual intelligent from it.

          But other then that its like you said. Its very good for Low stake, common, boilerplate procedures and providing clear personalized instructions for non-techies. (and forgetful nerds).

          Credit where credit is due & can’t argue with results.