Idk it makes me kinda uncomfortable tbh, so maybe my insight is useful here? Not that I’d stop them from doing their thing in private or at a con I won’t be attending, but I would like to stay as far away from that shit as possible personally. Here’s my reasons, some of which of course won’t apply to every furry, like all groups they’re not really a hivemind, but…
-The anonymity is cool, but to a degree anyone in a mask or full suit (be it a shiesty, clown costume, etc) outside of common events like Halloween immediately makes me a bit wary, sure probably nothing will happen but also if they do commit some crime they’ll be harder to identify out of that costume. The only benefit furries have over others here is the cost of those suits, that’d be an expensive costume to have to ditch, but at a con they can blend in in the suit (“Idk the guy who stabbed me was like…some blue dog or wolf thing, goddammit.” Lol)
The fact that they insist it isn’t sexual, when it clearly is at least for many. It gives me the same “don’t involve me in your kinks” feeling like if I saw a dominatrix and her sub licking her heels in a McDonalds, and the fact that for many it is sexual means that the ones that are “just for fun” get caught in that crossfire and make me feel that same gross feeling. Again not kink shaming, just non consensually involving the public in your kinks shaming, as consent is important.
The fact that everyone wants to be an animal and for many that is sexual is uhh…not not creepy. It’s sorta pseudobeastiality even if those people say “well I don’t really want to fuck a real dog” ok sure, I actually do believe that, but it’s still uncomfortably close and I wouldn’t be surprised of some of them do.
It seems to have some overlap with the contingent of online people that like to call themselves wolfkin and stuff, like vulpine.club or whatever that masto instance was. I’m not sure how much overlap, but I have seen some creepy shit posted from the individuals there, and the complete lack of reality those people live in is maybe not bad but it is startling and makes me uncomfortable. Again, I agree with their right to do it, but I blocked the instance, ykwim.
That’s basically it. Again I’m not saying let’s hunt them down lol, I’m just saying I don’t want to be involved at all whether it is or isn’t sexual, and sharing my personal feelings on why it makes me uncomfortable especially when out of place.
Edit: OH I can’t believe I forgot to list the biggest reason!
An insignificant portion of furries are actual literal nazis. Like, not “was there in '33” nazis, but neonazis that literally idolize those people, wear armbands, I’ve seen nazi uniforms that are somehow fucking big enough to fit on a fox mascot suit (must’ve belonged to Göring, or maybe Sgt. Schultz), etc. So like, that’s fucking weird too.
The fact that they insist it isn’t sexual, when it clearly is at least for many. It gives me the same “don’t involve me in your kinks” feeling like if I saw a dominatrix and her sub licking her heels in a McDonalds, and the fact that for many it is sexual means that the ones that are “just for fun” get caught in that crossfire and make me feel that same gross feeling. Again not kink shaming, just non consensually involving the public in your kinks shaming, as consent is important.
Okay, but when do you see people in fursuits just walking around in public? I can’t think of a time. I don’t think they are involving people in their kinks. Not most of the time anyway.
I mean it only happened once so far, but it was still weird, and it seems to have happened to others as well since I’ve heard others talk about running into furries in public. Just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened to anyone y’know?
But how does this compare to “I don’t care what they do in their own bedroom, but I don’t want to see two men holding hands or kissing in public?” Because it really doesn’t feel much different to me. Was the person you saw simulating sex at the time or just wearing a fursuit?
They were doing that “cute anime girl” type thing, idk, so maybe? Frankly, to refer back to my dominatrix example, I don’t care if say this guy that comes up when you search “guy licks boot on subway” insists it’s not sexual it’s just because he has an oral fixation and I’m just sexualizing it, the people who do it sexual reasons have ruined it for him and it now carries connotations of a sexual nature. So a furry doing odd egirl type shit in public, whether they think it’s sexual or not, comes off as such and gives me the creeps. It is what it is.
Gay people can also go way too far with sexual shit in public, there’s actually a huge debate within the community about whether or not kink should be at pride events for example, and I’d say wearing a whole furry suit is more akin to wearing leather or latex BDSM gear than “holding hands or kissing,” and your example is frankly disingenuous.
It’s not unnecessary, you brought it up! Why do you specify gay people kissing or holding hands then in your previous comment? Unnecessary to you right back then. So much “no u.” You can’t direct a conversation towards gay people just to claim that the guy replying is unnecessarily talking about gay people, that one is on you.
But yes, straight people, like MY ORIGINAL DOMINATRIX/SUB EXAMPLE, and the video I sent of the man licking a woman’s boot, can also do creepy stuff. Try and keep up. Jfc, you have your sights set on trying to pin me as a homophobe so bad you can’t see that I’ve been the one talking about straight people doing the creepy shit all along while you brought up the gay angle.
And because involving people in your kinks against their will is creepy whether your bits are showing or not, exhibit A: man licks boot on subway. Just do that shit in private (or private enough public locations, like a bar, con, club, etc). There’s places for that, the subway, park, store, whatever, ain’t it.
To be honest I dont see anything productive to this insight, you are just talking through your own silly meaningless prejudices where you can’t resist sexualizing the totality of an identity in order to rationalize your disgust for it, nor can you resist casually associating said identity with the potential for violence.
It is a bit like picking your nose in public, no one is really interested in seeing it.
See you’re doing the thing where you insist it isn’t sexual, despite it clearly being sexual for many, maybe not for you, but in essence you’re attempting to gaslight me by pretending it’s on me for “sexualizing” people doing shit like this which is clearly meant to be sexual. Like, just look up “furries” and scroll around images, a decent amount are going to be vaguely creepily sexual like that, or whatever the fuck this is. But yeah, that’s all my imagination, right lmao.
By the way I forgot to mention that an insignificant portion of them are like, actual literal nazis, but add that to the list. Knew I was forgetting something.
Idk it makes me kinda uncomfortable tbh, so maybe my insight is useful here? Not that I’d stop them from doing their thing in private or at a con I won’t be attending, but I would like to stay as far away from that shit as possible personally. Here’s my reasons, some of which of course won’t apply to every furry, like all groups they’re not really a hivemind, but…
-The anonymity is cool, but to a degree anyone in a mask or full suit (be it a shiesty, clown costume, etc) outside of common events like Halloween immediately makes me a bit wary, sure probably nothing will happen but also if they do commit some crime they’ll be harder to identify out of that costume. The only benefit furries have over others here is the cost of those suits, that’d be an expensive costume to have to ditch, but at a con they can blend in in the suit (“Idk the guy who stabbed me was like…some blue dog or wolf thing, goddammit.” Lol)
The fact that they insist it isn’t sexual, when it clearly is at least for many. It gives me the same “don’t involve me in your kinks” feeling like if I saw a dominatrix and her sub licking her heels in a McDonalds, and the fact that for many it is sexual means that the ones that are “just for fun” get caught in that crossfire and make me feel that same gross feeling. Again not kink shaming, just non consensually involving the public in your kinks shaming, as consent is important.
The fact that everyone wants to be an animal and for many that is sexual is uhh…not not creepy. It’s sorta pseudobeastiality even if those people say “well I don’t really want to fuck a real dog” ok sure, I actually do believe that, but it’s still uncomfortably close and I wouldn’t be surprised of some of them do.
It seems to have some overlap with the contingent of online people that like to call themselves wolfkin and stuff, like vulpine.club or whatever that masto instance was. I’m not sure how much overlap, but I have seen some creepy shit posted from the individuals there, and the complete lack of reality those people live in is maybe not bad but it is startling and makes me uncomfortable. Again, I agree with their right to do it, but I blocked the instance, ykwim.
That’s basically it. Again I’m not saying let’s hunt them down lol, I’m just saying I don’t want to be involved at all whether it is or isn’t sexual, and sharing my personal feelings on why it makes me uncomfortable especially when out of place.
Edit: OH I can’t believe I forgot to list the biggest reason!
Okay, but when do you see people in fursuits just walking around in public? I can’t think of a time. I don’t think they are involving people in their kinks. Not most of the time anyway.
I mean it only happened once so far, but it was still weird, and it seems to have happened to others as well since I’ve heard others talk about running into furries in public. Just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened to anyone y’know?
But how does this compare to “I don’t care what they do in their own bedroom, but I don’t want to see two men holding hands or kissing in public?” Because it really doesn’t feel much different to me. Was the person you saw simulating sex at the time or just wearing a fursuit?
They were doing that “cute anime girl” type thing, idk, so maybe? Frankly, to refer back to my dominatrix example, I don’t care if say this guy that comes up when you search “guy licks boot on subway” insists it’s not sexual it’s just because he has an oral fixation and I’m just sexualizing it, the people who do it sexual reasons have ruined it for him and it now carries connotations of a sexual nature. So a furry doing odd egirl type shit in public, whether they think it’s sexual or not, comes off as such and gives me the creeps. It is what it is.
Gay people can also go way too far with sexual shit in public, there’s actually a huge debate within the community about whether or not kink should be at pride events for example, and I’d say wearing a whole furry suit is more akin to wearing leather or latex BDSM gear than “holding hands or kissing,” and your example is frankly disingenuous.
Sorry… you’re comparing someone doing a “cute anime girl” thing in a fursuit with licking boots on a subway?
That’s ludicrous.
You have an unnecessary word at the beginning of that sentence which shows your biases.
Also, if someone wants to walk around in dominatrix gear- as long as they aren’t violating any local nudity laws, why do you give a shit?
It’s not unnecessary, you brought it up! Why do you specify gay people kissing or holding hands then in your previous comment? Unnecessary to you right back then. So much “no u.” You can’t direct a conversation towards gay people just to claim that the guy replying is unnecessarily talking about gay people, that one is on you.
But yes, straight people, like MY ORIGINAL DOMINATRIX/SUB EXAMPLE, and the video I sent of the man licking a woman’s boot, can also do creepy stuff. Try and keep up. Jfc, you have your sights set on trying to pin me as a homophobe so bad you can’t see that I’ve been the one talking about straight people doing the creepy shit all along while you brought up the gay angle.
And because involving people in your kinks against their will is creepy whether your bits are showing or not, exhibit A: man licks boot on subway. Just do that shit in private (or private enough public locations, like a bar, con, club, etc). There’s places for that, the subway, park, store, whatever, ain’t it.
To be honest I dont see anything productive to this insight, you are just talking through your own silly meaningless prejudices where you can’t resist sexualizing the totality of an identity in order to rationalize your disgust for it, nor can you resist casually associating said identity with the potential for violence.
It is a bit like picking your nose in public, no one is really interested in seeing it.
See you’re doing the thing where you insist it isn’t sexual, despite it clearly being sexual for many, maybe not for you, but in essence you’re attempting to gaslight me by pretending it’s on me for “sexualizing” people doing shit like this which is clearly meant to be sexual. Like, just look up “furries” and scroll around images, a decent amount are going to be vaguely creepily sexual like that, or whatever the fuck this is. But yeah, that’s all my imagination, right lmao.
By the way I forgot to mention that an insignificant portion of them are like, actual literal nazis, but add that to the list. Knew I was forgetting something.