Saying this is a no-brainer is essentially in and of itself, a no-brainer. But yet, here we are, frustratingly attempting to educate leftists and undecided people on the dangers of “protest voting” and how cataclysmically dangerous it is to assume that you know better without ever seeming to possess the ability to simply just prove it.
We have the receipts. We know damn well what is going to happen if Trump is allowed to win.
And if you think you’re teaching someone a lesson with your withheld vote, I’ve got news for you-
A LOT of people are going to be hurt. And the ones you think it will be, the ones you’d want it to be- won’t be counted among them.
Anyone thinking a protest vote will help anything should think about how much protest votes would have made Hitler pause.
Mussolini didn’t even care about votes at all and just marched an army of supporters into the capital and the king went along with it because Mussolini said he could stay on as a figurehead.
Franco fought a civil war to bring fascism to Spain while the capitalist States in the area watched on (and Hitler and Mussolini helped).
Israel continues to get support from Western leadership despite many protests and demonstrations. Western powers haven’t turned live ammunition on protestors yet, but they’ve done so in the past. I think the only reason they haven’t is because they have more effective tools that don’t generate as much outrage, but if those tools don’t work, I believe they’ll fall back to those methods.
The idea that a protest vote or boycott will help anything is naive with all of these examples of people who don’t care about protest votes or even election outcomes when taking or wielding power. The amount of protest votes it would take to matter would be enough to win the election outright. They don’t even have to do anything about them other than ignore them entirely.
Couldn’t tell democrats to try and please their demographics instead of republicans.
No, the left vote is “owed” to democrats no matter how much they turn their back on those voters.
And then y’all wonder why people are disillusioned with politics.
“I’m only willing to help if we’re pulling in a perfect condition ship that has a dream cabin hand crafted for each of us. Yes I know this ship will never exist, but I stand by my statement”
Oh, I didn’t realize Harris also keeps talking about being a dictator for a day and doing a purge.
Get your perfect world fallacy crap out of here dude, reality sucks. Instead of crying and doing nothing, do what you can to make it slightly less worse for everyone.
“Little rabbit, you should do whatever your ignorance urges you to do, but before you do, know that the bears are omnivores, and the wolves hate women and gays.”
Well to be honest, I don’t generally appreciate people tying to smugly score points by using proverbs that inaccurately illustrate the situation being discussed. bOtH sIdeS right?
If both sides are the same, then drag thinks the “both sides” must be the Democrats and the Leninists. Because those are the two groups who say they’re leftists but do little to help others. Drag agrees with the non voting leninists on a factual basis, and also thinks they’re complete fools on a practical basis.
Yeah. No. That’s fine for you. Do your thing. But I’m already going to have to get over the ridiculous point you tried to make about democrats being similar to lennonists. I’m not going to also try and navigate through a discussion with someone that thinks they’re a dragon.
No. You’ve just replaced all personal pronouns with one word.
It doesn’t work and it’s ridiculously you don’t see it. PROnouns are things which are used instead of names. Names are unique. If everyone makes up their “own pronouns” (which you haven’t, you’re just using one or at most two words), then they aren’t pronouns, theyre nouns, aka names.
That’s why people are confused. Because you’re not using pronouns, youre using your own name to refer to yourself.
Saying this is a no-brainer is essentially in and of itself, a no-brainer. But yet, here we are, frustratingly attempting to educate leftists and undecided people on the dangers of “protest voting” and how cataclysmically dangerous it is to assume that you know better without ever seeming to possess the ability to simply just prove it.
We have the receipts. We know damn well what is going to happen if Trump is allowed to win.
And if you think you’re teaching someone a lesson with your withheld vote, I’ve got news for you-
A LOT of people are going to be hurt. And the ones you think it will be, the ones you’d want it to be- won’t be counted among them.
I promise you this.
Anyone thinking a protest vote will help anything should think about how much protest votes would have made Hitler pause.
Mussolini didn’t even care about votes at all and just marched an army of supporters into the capital and the king went along with it because Mussolini said he could stay on as a figurehead.
Franco fought a civil war to bring fascism to Spain while the capitalist States in the area watched on (and Hitler and Mussolini helped).
Israel continues to get support from Western leadership despite many protests and demonstrations. Western powers haven’t turned live ammunition on protestors yet, but they’ve done so in the past. I think the only reason they haven’t is because they have more effective tools that don’t generate as much outrage, but if those tools don’t work, I believe they’ll fall back to those methods.
The idea that a protest vote or boycott will help anything is naive with all of these examples of people who don’t care about protest votes or even election outcomes when taking or wielding power. The amount of protest votes it would take to matter would be enough to win the election outright. They don’t even have to do anything about them other than ignore them entirely.
Couldn’t tell democrats to try and please their demographics instead of republicans. No, the left vote is “owed” to democrats no matter how much they turn their back on those voters. And then y’all wonder why people are disillusioned with politics.
Well, when your entire political view is based on unsubstantiated rhetoric, I’d imagine it’s probably pretty easy to arrive at such a conclusion.
No vote is owed, my friend. That’s just something you all seem to like to tell yourself so that your smug arrogance has a semblance of purpose.
And trust me when I say this:
No one is wondering why you’re disillusioned with politics… disillusion- of course, being the keyword here.
Enjoy watching from the docks while rest of us pull this ship into port without your help.
“I’m only willing to help if we’re pulling in a perfect condition ship that has a dream cabin hand crafted for each of us. Yes I know this ship will never exist, but I stand by my statement”
“little rabbit you should vote for the bear rather than the wolf, he’s a much nicer predator”
Oh, I didn’t realize Harris also keeps talking about being a dictator for a day and doing a purge.
Get your perfect world fallacy crap out of here dude, reality sucks. Instead of crying and doing nothing, do what you can to make it slightly less worse for everyone.
Well said!
“Little rabbit, you should do whatever your ignorance urges you to do, but before you do, know that the bears are omnivores, and the wolves hate women and gays.”
I’m quoting a proverb, but you’re obviously more interested in scoring points than having a discussion. Have fun.
Well to be honest, I don’t generally appreciate people tying to smugly score points by using proverbs that inaccurately illustrate the situation being discussed. bOtH sIdeS right?
And trust me, I have a lot of fun.
If both sides are the same, then drag thinks the “both sides” must be the Democrats and the Leninists. Because those are the two groups who say they’re leftists but do little to help others. Drag agrees with the non voting leninists on a factual basis, and also thinks they’re complete fools on a practical basis.
Who’s drag?
Maybe they’re talking about themselves in 3rd person (dragonfucker)? 🙃
Oh good god.
Haha, I was actually joking, I didn’t think it’s really true. This is hilarious!
Yeah… it’s true.
Drag’s Lemmy displayname is Dragon “Rider”
I have no idea who you’re talking about.
Drag… Is drag. @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz
Oh! I get it. Yeah… Sorry but as a rule, I don’t generally discuss things with people that refer to themselves in 3rd person.
Drag is referring to dragself with drag’s first person neopronouns, drag/dragself.
Yeah. No. That’s fine for you. Do your thing. But I’m already going to have to get over the ridiculous point you tried to make about democrats being similar to lennonists. I’m not going to also try and navigate through a discussion with someone that thinks they’re a dragon.
No. You’ve just replaced all personal pronouns with one word.
It doesn’t work and it’s ridiculously you don’t see it. PROnouns are things which are used instead of names. Names are unique. If everyone makes up their “own pronouns” (which you haven’t, you’re just using one or at most two words), then they aren’t pronouns, theyre nouns, aka names.
That’s why people are confused. Because you’re not using pronouns, youre using your own name to refer to yourself.