• icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works
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              More like american 80s action movies since traficked and unoficially dubed version of those where all the rage back at the ussr which claimed it hated american culture so much.

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          This is the weird thing I notice about lemmy so far. It’s even more of an echo chamber than reddit

          It’s more interesting to see different viewpoints, I’ll probably be called conservative just for saying this

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      People that see Mao and Lenin and somehow think authoritarian dictatorships are democratic utopias.

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          And why would anyone care about Albert Einstein’s view on Lenin? An obvious fallacious appeal to authority, and not even a very smart one.

          That’s if this is even true.

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            An obvious fallacious appeal to authority

            Applying logic and reason to a post about a President’s silly haircuts.

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            Einstein is a jewish that lived through the Russian revolution and lived in Germany during the rise of Hitler before his escape to the US. As far as period accounts he’s as good as you’re gonna get, and I don’t know about you but I don’t think we’re going to find a more intelligent person alive during that period but if you want to give examples that aren’t nazis or people that said nice things about nazis I’m certainly open to them.

            And he was an extremely active leftist politically during the period. You should read his essay, Why Socialism? It’s a good introductory piece for people.

            Also something of a smart man.

            Page 14 of the 260 page FBI file on him states the following:

            Not even Stalin himself is affiliated with so many anarcho-communist international groups to promote this “preliminary condition” of world revolution and ultimate anarchy, as Albert Einstein.

            Those files are a fun read, do recommend them. Available on the FBI vault here.

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              So…yeah, a naked appeal to authority. Einstein was nigh-unmatchable in his field, but that doesn’t mean his intelligence was applicable to every other field. In fact, one of the worst things you can do is consider an expert in one field an automatic ‘authority’ in others.

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                The same people shitting on Einstein right now are also the same people that treat media as a political authority. I can’t take it seriously at all.

                Name a better authority that was alive in the period who I won’t be able to show worshipped the nazis at some point.

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                  I’m not ‘shitting on Einstein’, I’m simply saying he’s not some sort of political or economic expert. If he were, he’d be famous for those as well as for being a pre-eminent physicist.

                  Giving weight to someone’s opinion on one topic just because they’re an expert on a different topic is highly inadvisable.

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                    Once again not really answering my question. Who do you consider a better authority that was living in the period?

                    If you have no better authority to offer this just amounts to an ideologically motivated dismissal.

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              Imagine when someone points out you’re being illogical by using an appeal to authority and you respond by… doubling down on an appeal to authority. That’s some Marx-tier dialectical thinking there, comrade

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                  It doesn’t matter what Einstein thought about Lenin; if he had a good argument for Lenin being a good guy, that argument would stand on its own, and the content (that’s “material conditions” in redfash-speak) of that argument should be discussed. Additionally, it’s not necessary for me to offer a counter-narrative to point out a logical fallacy; that’s shifting the burden of proof, another fallacy.

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                “Being illogical is when you consider one of history’s most important users of logic a person that should probably be listened to.”

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                  lol still doubling down on your irrationality. There are some contradictions, but a dialectical analysis shows that being irrational is, in fact, progressive; am I right, comrade?

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                    You can’t just say random words frequently said by marxists completely outside their correct context and have them mean anything.