• WatDabney
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    3 months ago

    Ah… yes. A lot of things just clicked into place for me, and not just regarding Vance.

    Most notably really - trying to grasp the idea of “TheoBros” broadly - I wondered how such a thing is even possible. How can any even moderately intelligent person spend a great deal of time online and cling to a Christian belief at all, and much less a conservative one? There’s just far too much information out there that contradicts that view. Granted, there is of course content tailored to affirm it, but it’s essentially a specialist thing - not just a bubble, but a very specific and limited bubble, surrounded by a sea of contrary views and contradicting facts.

    And then it clicked - the way to maintain a conservative Christian viewpoint on the internet is to be an aggressively censorious conspiracy theorist.

    The only way they can face the sea of contradictory information is to ascribe it to some sort of ridiculously massive conspiracy by the forces of evil - such that the vast majority of what exists on the internet is the lies of Satan’s minions - and to establish little, aggressively monitored and censored enclaves in which their views and only their views are allowed, and everything else is condemned and preferably censored.

    Their whole cognitively dissonant view on “free speech” - in which they somehow simultaneously cry about being “censored” generally simply for being massively downvoted and even as they, in their own bubbles, overtly censor any and all contrary views - suddenly makes sense. They explain away the fact that the vast majority of people disagree with them and even condemn them as a conspiracy to silence them, and create the illusion that they’re not merely a noxious and irrational few by aggressively monitoring and controlling their walled gardens, so that opposition is at least underrepresented if not silenced entirely.

    It also explains their slippery relationship with truth, and specifically things like Vance clinging to the Haitians eating pets myth even after it’s been proven false. For them, coming across information that proves them wrong has to be an essentially daily occurrence, so they undoubtedly work out an approach to it, such that they, exactly as he’s doing, just flatly ignore the necessary ramifications of the truth and instead just blithely cling to whatever myth affirms their beliefs.

    Yeah… suddenly a whole lot of previously inexplicable behavior and beliefs are making sense to me…

    And frankly, while it’s notably pathetic and cringily willfully ignorant, it’s also scary. More on that later maybe…

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      3 months ago

      thanks for the summary. I just cant deal with the republican full monty exposé right now.

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      and to establish little, aggressively monitored and censored enclaves in which their views and only their views are allowed, and everything else is condemned and preferably censored.

      You left out the part where they claim it’s a bastion of free speech, another 1984-level example of doublethink.

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      3 months ago

      just had a chance to re-read your take in a better headspace. pretty on target I would say. the leaders of this assault on reason and truth (excepting trump), however, I think have a much better grasp of what is objectively true

      the truly sickening thing is watching the grifters feed the desparate what they want to hear knowing that every single trump voter is a camp line candidate - just like everyone else.

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      3 months ago

      agreed. no one has the mental bandwidth for this crap. just vote against the pussy grabbing domestic terrorist and his sycophantic sidekick and lets move on. there’s lots to do.

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          3 months ago

          nope, they have been here since we hauled ourselves onto land.

          I am just saying that the republican MO has always been to flood the field with shit and make us wade though it.

          I will talk to the ones that willingly and honestly engage (and, among the trumpers, thats not many). but if the outlet of the typical trump suporters genuine rage is to burn the house down with everyone in it… I don’t have the mental capacity to consider their point of view at the moment.