• VBB@lemmy.worldM
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    2 days ago

    I think danbooru rating system is fair. I want to avoid images focused on some human body parts or something that can’t be comfortably seen in front of other peoples. For example, this picture is clearly focused on lower part of Youmus body, judging by camera angle and amount of pictures space the mentioned part takes.
    About mentioned post. In the past danbooru had Safe rating, which included todays General and Sensitive pictures. After change in rating system, Safe pictures ended up in Sensitive group. It’s just no danbooru contributor stumbled upon it yet.

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      2 days ago

      I’ll always do as a mod asks, but please provide your clear reasoning, rather than a reference to something which can be inconsistent and unclear.

      on lower part of Youmus body, judging by camera angle and amount of pictures space the mentioned part takes

      So no focus on thighs/legs or butts. Understood.

      I think that’s overly careful and a bit too close to the type of thinking done by people who ask women to “cover up”, but I’ll keep it mind.

      While erring on the side of caution is nice, I think in this case you’re crossing into accommodating the kind of people who have hangups concerning the human body. Ones they should overcome, rather than demand the rest of humanity censor themselves for them.

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        1 day ago

        If you want specifically my opinion, I just don’t like that focus, I don’t find it aesthetically pleasing. Turning on rating:general filter on danbooru increases density of a good content, since artists here seem to more often invest in things like a good composition, neat idea or cool reference, instead of pleasing someones fetishes. Not saying that there are no good sensitive or questionable works tho.

        If you want reasoning why are rules like that. Because this way they accommodate the most amount of peoples, assuming that sensitive lovers won’t get unhappy, because they don’t want to press the button. And NSFW mark doesn’t play the role of “the black mark” anyway, since such post are still getting good amount of upvotes here. Also I think that cherry-picking some extreme examples isn’t constructive, because the same can be done to the other group of peoples. Ironically, they seems to be more accommodated, since they can press the button and get what they want, while the extremes you are mentioning likely won’t be happy with something like: https://lemmy.world/post/19824550, https://lemmy.world/post/19799073, https://lemmy.world/post/19637909 .

        So no focus on …

        Please see https://safebooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/howto%3Arate and rating of a specific picture.

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          Marking content NSFW when unwarranted isn’t inconsequential.

          Lemmy allows users to completely disable the displaying of content which is marked NSFW, meaning when doing so, there is a percentage of users who won’t know it was posted at all, some of which would have liked seeing it.

          Posts like this being marked NSFW is one of the reasons I can’t just use that feature to get rid of the actual porn I don’t want to see, and why I have to check every NSFW post to see what it is, including the ones I’d rather not.

          And one does not need to be a sexual deviant to enjoy interesting compositions of the human body. I don’t enjoy this image I posted because it turns me on. I like it for all the other reasons that art is neat to look at.

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            23 hours ago

            There is no an uniform definition of NSFW. LW defines it as erotic or otherwise suggestive media or etc, which is left to interpretation. Being a community that is mainly focused on 2hu pics, it makes sense to adopt danboorus well explained definition with images having a rating. I don’t see a reason to introduce new system, which tries to follow flawed tagging system of Lemmy.

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              22 hours ago

              I know. But I don’t agree that the line between sensitive and general drawn by the booru rating system (or rather, the way it is sometimes applied) is one that translates to the line that makes the most sense on the fediverse for whether something should be tagged NSFW.

              Sure, use the same words, but even that will be up to interpretation to an extent. They use the line “and anything else potentially not safe for work” in the sensitive rating which could be almost anything depending on who is deciding.

              Their rating for general is “Nothing sexualized or inappropriate to view in front of others” which to me this image I posted fits into exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised seeing someone posting a photo of themselves, dressed and posing in a equivalent manner, simply because it looks cool.

              Eventually, multiple tags should be made available, but until then we should do the best that is possible with what is here. By using our judgement and discussing it the way we are now.