• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    And other lies you tell yourself.

    I’ve never met a Palestinian supporter that isn’t also a Ukrainian supporter.

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        I signed up to Lemmy without knowing much about instances, can’t remember exactly why I picked lemmy.ml but it wasn’t politics.

        Is this really a generalisation people have? Should I move…?

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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          your admins also run lemmygrad. only you can decide if you should leave. personally, i like beehaw, slrpnk, dbzero, and blahaj. one important aspect to understand about the fediverse is that your instance is part of the identity you present to others

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            It has nothing to do with your identity. They all have different rules and different communities. Its more like which hotel chain you prefer to stay at. Its a preference for sure, but one that doesnt matter much.

            People who judge based on instance are only outing themselves anyways. Churlish.

            • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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              it does say something though about what style of moderation you prefer and who you associate yourself with. that’s why it’s literally part of the identity you present. it’s embedded in your username. it’s like your fediverse last name.

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                I’ve been on Lemmy for a year and only now I’m learning about instances. I’ve read a few threads about lemmy.ml being “tankies” and that hexbear is the worst, but haven’t had any negative interactions with either. Shit, I don’t know the majority of the time which instance I’m interacting with.

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                Sort of, at best it means that instance hasnt banned that person, yet.

                You could argue it means something more than nothing, I’d argue its not enough to matter.

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                  People really want to be allowed to be bigots and currently Communism is “safe” to hate, so they let a few interactions color their opinion of an entire, loosely-affiliated group.

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                    There does seem to be a lot of regional competition I’ll call it, between posters. Some really get a kick out of figuring out which country someone is from so they can quickly throw out their argument.

                    Kind of a wild place. Still lots of different perspectives abound, if you cast a wide enough net.

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              Probably best to use a smaller instance instead of .world. The less centralized Lemmy is, the better.

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                Ugh. Yeah I’ve heard that "it isn’t the best. It was the easiest to sign up for when the reddit exodus happened. I’m anti Israel and pro Ukraine and I’m always busy with real life/my own hobbies. I just don’t have the bandwidth for finding the best instance. C

                • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  I would put some effort into switching when you have a weekend. There isn’t necessarily a best, just best for you. The ones quill mentioned up the thread are all solid though. I’m a dbzero guy myself but blahaj is cool and I haven’t had issues with people from any of the other servers he’s mentioned. .ml, .hexbear, .grad, and .vegan whatever that instance is are all no go in my book for various reasons.

                  • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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                    exactly! every instance represents an imperfect vision of their admins perfect instance. the trick is finding or founding the instance that most closely reflects what you want to see and experience on the fediverse

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                    I’m already planning on making a new account eventually, I’m just lazy and have a hard time letting go. Any details on why I should expedite the process? Aside from being mainstream, the only argument I have heard is that it has a hard time federating with the other instances due to its size

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                  You don’t have to switch, its like email, you can just have multiple. The phone apps for lemmy have an account switch feature so you can use more than one. The sign ups aren’t much more difficult than worlds in most cases. Some require a manual approval which can take some time.

                  Personally I left world because of how antagonistic they are towards vegans. I don’t mind a good debate but its crazy to me that the majority opinion there is that veganism is about as taboo as child rape.

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              No. Unless you’re a power-tripping mod or admin, they seem to be cool with that. Not so much toward average users. I’ve seen no drama here on lemm.ee.

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          Personally, I’m fine with seeing differing opinions. On the political side, they get a bit obsessed with dunking and all these in-group memes for my tastes.

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        Ah, see I realized they were either all bad faith actors, bots, or idiots ages ago and don’t federate with them.

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      There are 20 Israel stories to every 1 Ukraine story on Lemmy.

      Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this platform is being heavily astroturfed, and so are many other “liberal” platforms. It’s actually way worse here than on Reddit.

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        It’s actually way worse here than on Reddit.

        Because after r/ChapoTraphouse was kicked out from Reddit for inciting violence, the tankies moved to create lemmy.ml.

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          CTH was kicked out for saying “John Brown was right actually, killing slavers is good” and made an example of, along with thedonald way after it had been abandoned. Full “antifa is as bad as fascists” garbage but it’s what the shareholders want.

          And it wasn’t all tankies, there were a lot of LateStageCapitalism refugees that git kicked because LSC was just straight tankie. I got kicked for suggesting that North Korea isn’t good just because the West says it’s bad.

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        Of course there are, and I probably post 3 of the 20.

        Other than the alt-right, you’re not going to find any support for Russia in the West.

        Why would we need to raise awareness and keep posting about Ukraine to the same level as Palestine?

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          Bruh I literally got banned from .ml twice just for mentioning the fact that Russia shot down a civilian airliner in Ukraine. You are completely delusional if you don’t see that a significant portion of these idiots are up Putin’s ass.

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            You absolute little liar.

            the deceptive practice of presenting an orchestrated marketing or public relations campaign in the guise of unsolicited comments from members of the public.

            I am a real person, with an ethical obligation to stand up against genocide. There is no deception, I am a member of the public, and what I am doing is called activism (or slacktivism for the pessimists in the world).

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              So, you admit that you are flooding this platform to deliberately present one story as more dominant in the news cycle than others in order to misrepresent its relevancy to current events?

              You can argue definitions and semantics all day, but that is what you’re doing - and it’s dishonest at best.

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                You are saying posting on aggregate media sites is dishonest?

                That is just ridiculous.

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        we’re also numb to what’s happening in ukraine. people got tired around when it hit the one year mark

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            i mean westerners. it’s been very frustrating because it means i have to find out what’s going on by seeking firsthand perspectives because journalistic fervor is guided by what will sell ads. my bet is sometime around october seventh people start tuning out again because the novelty will have worn off. i’d love to be wrong, but every single outrage decays as we mistake novelty for news

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      I haven’t met any in real life as far as I’m aware, but I’ve seen plenty on here.

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      I think they’re talking about the people on TV talking about it, not the protestors themselves.