• nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    The answer you seek is in my example: in the real world it’s not binary, it’s always a scale

    btw I don’t understand why you’ve used so little formatting

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      3 months ago

      Some things are really that binary, when they’re MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

      Even in the real world, you can’t have you cake AND eat it too. Do you not understand what that means?

      You can’t claim “it was extremely targeted, but all the civilian casualties were an accident, even though the accidental things happened on purpose.”

      It’s like saying “up is down”. Some things are mutually exclusive.

      I keep underlining these things so even a cowardly whataboutist would understand.

      You have to choose one, there is no middle-ground as these are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE (you may need to Google the term): was the strike “extremely surgical”? If it was, then the 3000 injured plus ~10 dead, including children, are dead on purpose.

      OR

      Israel indiscriminately bombs civilians.

      There’s no middle option here, no matter how much you’d like for there to be. Either Israel targeted civilians or didn’t care they’d end up killing them.

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        3 months ago

        Just to be clear on definitions here: could you give me an example of something that you personally believe can be respresented on a scale (as opposed to binary)?

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          Sexuality is on a spectrum, because the opposing ends aren’t mutually exclusive. You can do both. What you can’t do is have a cake AND eat it. Because if you eat the cake, you won’t have it. See?

          Have you ever driven a car? You come to a crossing where you can go left or right.

          If you go left, you didn’t turn right, and if you turn right, you’re turning away from left.

          The choices are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. You seem to be really struggling to understand what that means.

          Just a reminder, it’s YOUR assertion that these were “extremely targeted, no accident”.

          So you yourself have said that Israel bombed and killed civilians on purpose. That’s a crime against humanity. Terrorism.

          Fuck terrorist scum like whoever did this cowardly pager attack. Disgusting pos.

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            3 months ago

            I kinda love how you’re using the example of sexuality and a traffic crossing together. It’s no different than someone ‘explaining’ how there are only two genders, really.

            With violent acts like what we’re talking about here, both intent and outcome are on a spectrum. There’s a luck factor involved between the two. These clues should be enough for you to understand it’s not as binary as you’ve been led to believe

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              I kinda don’t love how you’re unable to imagine that your b-grade logic would make Israel any less of a terrorist state.

              Trying to assert the problem of induction into anything when faced with shitty things your people have done is honestly just shitty rhetoric. Like trying to play hide and seek with a 2-year old who thinks if they close their eyes no-one can see them.

              You fail to stand behind your OWN WORDS.

              YOU wrote:

              the attacks are extremely targeted, thus not random at all

              And

              People in the vicinity are not harmed

              This wasn’t Israeli outlets saying these things. It was YOU. I’m having an issue with YOUR statements, which you’re desperately trying to run away from.

              So the attacks are extremely targeted, and don’t harm “people in the vicinity”. Those are your statements. Then how come a 9-year old girl among others is dead? (And 3000 people injured?)

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                3 months ago

                This wasn’t Israeli outlets saying these things. It was YOU. I’m having an issue with YOUR statements

                I’m sorry, but can you point me to where I said either of those two things?

                I’m starting to think you’re just making things up

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                  3 months ago

                  Oh right, you’re just another troll backing the bullshit of another person who started this thread, I see, I didn’t pay attention to the username. Apologies, terribly.

                  So just read the comment again and input him where I say “you”.

                  Like I said, you don’t have any logic here. Some things are mutually exclusive.