• Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    2 months ago

    Progressives always say this, and they are unfortunately always wrong. Face it, if you are progressive you won’t sit this election out. If you are centrist you might (or you’ll vote Trump).

    • Zaktor
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 months ago

      We really averted disaster electing Hillary Clinton in 2016, didn’t we? It would have been terrible if Trump won, but luckily she dove to the center and it was, as always, a foolproof strategy.

      • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        The point is that progressives voted for her. The narrative that Bernie-bros stayed home has been debunked several times. Relative to Biden in 2020, she was indeed missing the votes of centrists.

      • wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        2 months ago

        Hillary got buttery maled and blue walled.

        She was exceptionally equipped and would have made for a fine president, after all, she was the one who advocated for Obamacare back in the 90s, (which you may know, was actually a republican plan first, back when republicans used to win New England states).

        All that is to say, people like to think Hillary wouldn’t have moved the country to the left, but she most certainly would have. Her public perception may not have been as left as Bernie, and perception absolutely matters (see Joe B). However, like Biden, I think she had such control of the political machinery that she would have been much more effective at putting those plans to action.

        The reason I say all of this is, some our most left leaning policies have been enacted by presidents who were elected from the center (Johnson, Clinton, Biden).