FediTips (@feditips@mstdn.social)
mstdn.social
Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression

Please don’t put any hate comments against the developers of lemmy or against the person who posted this.

I am also unhappy about what the main lemmy instance is doing.

What are your thoughts?

  • poVoq@lemmy.ml
    13·
    3 years ago

    I think a lot of Fediverse developers agree that it was a (early & forgivable) mistake to let the main mastodon instance grow so big. Having a “big tent” instance is directly detrimental to the very idea of the Fediverse.

    • onyx@lemmy.ml
      9·
      3 years ago

      I totally agree that it’s healthier for the fediverse to stay decentralized. But instances don’t have to restrict participation to a certain section of the political spectrum to achieve that. I think there’s space for multiple general-interest instances in the fediverse without needing any one of them to dominate the community.

      • poVoq@lemmy.ml
        14·
        3 years ago

        Sure, but the Lemmy developers decided that they would not run such an instance themselves. I can’t read their minds, but I personally would have done the same to keep sane. A non-political instance has to by definition be relatively open to the alt-right, but those are trying to actively infiltrate a lot of online communities to spread their hate. So far the only moderation policy that seem to work against them is to pull out the ban-hammer early and quickly, which would not be possible on a non-political instance.

        • onyx@lemmy.ml
          8·
          3 years ago

          Having no moderation is definitely a non-starter, since the community would eventually devolve to something like 4chan. I’m just wishing for a Lemmy instance where center-left and center-right folks could interact and discuss general topics, some of which may be political. Politics intersects with so many areas, so having strong political restrictions would really limit the type of discussions that the instance could have.

          The Lemmy developers have no obligation to create such a space, you’re right about that. But the Lemmy software is pretty great, and it would be nice to be able to point interested newcomers to an active Lemmy instance where they can talk about a variety of common topics, without alienating a large chunk of these people.

          • poVoq@lemmy.ml
            10·
            3 years ago

            I’m just wishing for a Lemmy instance where center-left and center-right folks could interact and discuss general topics, some of which may be political.

            What is stopping people to interact cross instance? That is the very idea of the Fediverse to allow to interact with people from other instances.

            I understand that the current opt-in federation model of Lemmy somewhat limits this, but I think a reasonably well moderated libertarian instance would be allowed to federate with lemmy.ml.

            But making separate instances is very helpful in moderation and “pruning” the network to prevent an alt-right take-over as has happened with so many other non-mainstream social media.

        • onyx@lemmy.ml
          12·
          3 years ago

          Thank you for sharing that. I really appreciate this paragraph:

          In particular, I would like to see someone (or a group of people) create a mainstream, or liberal instance. That should help to avoid further drama, and avoid attempts to turn lemmy.ml into something that it is not. @dessalines and I would certainly be willing to help with any technical problems that such an instance runs into, and include it on join-lemmy.org (just like any other instance that meets the code of conduct).

          One of the concerns that FediTips raised was that they weren’t sure whether Lemmy developers/admins would condone a “mainstream” Lemmy instance. This is a relief to read.