There’s no chance NATO’ll grant Ukraine membership. It is right next to Russia, and NATO is scared to upset Putin.
There’s a good reason that Zelenskyy states often & publicly that they’ll take back Crimea. It is because, imho, NATO would be happy for Putin to have Crimea as a face-saver. But the Ukrainians have lost too much and know that kicking Russia out of every inch of Ukraine is the only guarantee that they’ll be safe from future special operations.
NATO likes a weakened Russia but still wants to appease Putin. May they’re afraid of what’ll happen if he gets deposed. Or maybe he has kompromat on the leaders.
Also, don’t forget that Ukraine has sihnificant oil & gas reserves in the East as well as contributing an enormous amount to the world’s food supply. Having the chance to get those things in the hands of a far friendlier country, I think NATO will put a lot of effort into getting Ukraine solidly on our side.
The reasonable countries in NATO have been burnt before by letting in countries with a long record of having reasonable governments, and Ukraine has had one for only a decade. They probably aren’t that keen to be burnt again.
Yet NATO has not taken any steps to remove/ suspend the memberships of member countries turned dictatorships or with govt. supporting dictatorships. They’re ok with it, so why this farce?
Meanwhile while NATO has a lot to offer Ukraine, Ukraine doesn’t have a whole lot to offer NATO
Ukraine is a buffer country between Russia and NATO countries. It controls a critical piece of territory & has been offering NATO a whole lot since Feb 24, 2022 which is why NATO is supplying them arms & ammo. NATO is not altruistic, Hell! it was only when Ukraine did not lose in the planned 3-4 days and when NATO’s own citizens held huge demonstrations supporting Ukraine that it started supporting Ukraine.
NATO is content with Ukraine bleeding and getting bombed, because Putin (who they all have coddled for a long while) is kept busy with it, is weakened by it, but still retains power in Russia. A decisive win for Ukraine is a fatal loss for Putin and NATO are afraid of what he might do. They’ve always been afraid of him, so they sacrifice Ukraine. It is most cowardly.
Ukraine is becoming one of the largest armies in the world, and one of the two with big intensity war experience. They lack equipment and some training, but they have a lot to teach nato and a lot of manpower so nato citizen don’t have to go to war in the near future.
They also were controlling a strategic piece of territory, which is why Russia invaded in the first place. Access to Mediterranean Sea. There’s nothing the US love more than to have their enemies surrounded and blockades by US vassals. You know like Taiwan for example.
One of the reasons of not granting NATO membership was indeed in fear of russian retaliation. Russia took Crimea and invaded Donbas since then even without the membership promise. Putin is already upset so no reason not to bestow the membership on Ukraine.
Kicking out Russia is next to impossible as they’ve dug in. What Ukraine has in superior weaponry, Russia has in numbers. Time is bad for both parties, but worse for Ukraine, as Western fatigue will inevitably come.
There’s no chance NATO’ll grant Ukraine membership. It is right next to Russia, and NATO is scared to upset Putin.
There’s a good reason that Zelenskyy states often & publicly that they’ll take back Crimea. It is because, imho, NATO would be happy for Putin to have Crimea as a face-saver. But the Ukrainians have lost too much and know that kicking Russia out of every inch of Ukraine is the only guarantee that they’ll be safe from future special operations.
NATO likes a weakened Russia but still wants to appease Putin. May they’re afraid of what’ll happen if he gets deposed. Or maybe he has kompromat on the leaders.
Finland is also right next to Russia, in fact St Petersburg is only 100 miles from the border. And by “border”, that now means “NATO border.”
So maybe NATO doesn’t really care what Putin thinks about its membership.
“There’s no chance NATO’ll grant Ukraine membership. It is right next to Russia, and NATO is scared to upset Putin.”
While I agree that the chances for Ukraina bring admitted is next to slim I definitively don’t agree with your opinion on why it will not happen.
You do understand that Ukraine is literally the only democracy in Europe that shares borders with Russia and is not a member of NATO?
Also, don’t forget that Ukraine has sihnificant oil & gas reserves in the East as well as contributing an enormous amount to the world’s food supply. Having the chance to get those things in the hands of a far friendlier country, I think NATO will put a lot of effort into getting Ukraine solidly on our side.
It is not a member of NATO because Merkel (Putin’s useful idiot or agent, take your pick) would not allow it.
Why, in your opinion, is that?
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Yet NATO has not taken any steps to remove/ suspend the memberships of member countries turned dictatorships or with govt. supporting dictatorships. They’re ok with it, so why this farce?
Ukraine is a buffer country between Russia and NATO countries. It controls a critical piece of territory & has been offering NATO a whole lot since Feb 24, 2022 which is why NATO is supplying them arms & ammo. NATO is not altruistic, Hell! it was only when Ukraine did not lose in the planned 3-4 days and when NATO’s own citizens held huge demonstrations supporting Ukraine that it started supporting Ukraine.
NATO is content with Ukraine bleeding and getting bombed, because Putin (who they all have coddled for a long while) is kept busy with it, is weakened by it, but still retains power in Russia. A decisive win for Ukraine is a fatal loss for Putin and NATO are afraid of what he might do. They’ve always been afraid of him, so they sacrifice Ukraine. It is most cowardly.
Ukraine is becoming one of the largest armies in the world, and one of the two with big intensity war experience. They lack equipment and some training, but they have a lot to teach nato and a lot of manpower so nato citizen don’t have to go to war in the near future.
They also were controlling a strategic piece of territory, which is why Russia invaded in the first place. Access to Mediterranean Sea. There’s nothing the US love more than to have their enemies surrounded and blockades by US vassals. You know like Taiwan for example.
One of the reasons of not granting NATO membership was indeed in fear of russian retaliation. Russia took Crimea and invaded Donbas since then even without the membership promise. Putin is already upset so no reason not to bestow the membership on Ukraine.
Kicking out Russia is next to impossible as they’ve dug in. What Ukraine has in superior weaponry, Russia has in numbers. Time is bad for both parties, but worse for Ukraine, as Western fatigue will inevitably come.