• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    But it literally doesn’t exist.

    This is about mandatory parental leave (as in mandatory for there to be the option for paid parental leave), because we know labour protection is necessary, because even with it, we hardly get to that level.

    The Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Tonga and the United States are the only seven countries in the United Nations that do not require employers to provide paid time off for new parents.

    How can you pretend your personal experience has anything to do with this? It’s like someone pointing out extremely high cancer rates linked to something in my country and I go “well I don’t have cancer so it can’t be that bad.”

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      4 months ago

      No one ever says “mandatory” when discussing this though, which is why I’ve been a bit confused about the issue. Would have saved me a lot of confusion.

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          The original article doesn’t mention mandatory, nor does most anyone commenting on social media platforms say mandatory. The original article goes out of its way to mention exception for specific federal government jobs, but never mentions mandatory. They just say that there’s no parental leave in the US except for some fed jobs. In fact, rarely do people specify paid as you have. Which makes me second guess a few former employers as to if it was paid or not. I know for sure it was paid leave at the vast majority of my previous employers

          The article you linked (thanks for that, good information in there) says 80% of employers don’t offer leave, which seems crazy because even my first jobs for part time minimum wage offered paid leave for full-time employees. Possibly because I worked for a big chain, maybe it’s the small businesses that don’t offer leave, but is 80% of the US labor force working for small businesses or as contract/gig jobs? Or is this another case of major employers not allowing people to work full time to avoid having to provide them benefits?

          Regardless, it’s clear that the right move is mandatory paid parental leave. I know anything companies provide that isn’t legally required can be canceled at a whim.

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            You’re disagreeing with facts.

            The US is in the group of seven countries which do not mandate maternal let alone paternal leave.

            This is a cold hard fact. Stop crying over living in a shithole and get out of that denial. The US does not have legally mandated maternal leave. No-one in the US has the default legal right to that. Because it’s not enshrined in law. As a mandatory thing for employers to do.

            Kinda how it’s mandatory to pay taxes.

            “Story doesn’t even use the word” are you on crack?

            The original article doesn’t mention mandatory

            It’s the literal title.

            That’s how the word is used.

            Just the other day I was talking about how ironic it is how often I end up teaching Americans English.