Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) is attempting to assemble a group of Democratic senators to go to the White House on Monday and ask that Joe Biden exit the presidential race, according to two people with direct knowledge of the effort.
Whoever ends up being the candidate will get literally billions of dollars in earned media by simply “becoming” the candidate. The whole drama of it suddenly engages what is currently a completely disengaged voting populace.
This is the most important bit IMO.
At this point, I don’t even think of dumping Biden as just a satisfactory fallback position, but as a winning strategy, and specifically for this reason.
It’s not as if Biden suddenly became a weak candidate the night of the debate - he’s been a weak candidate all along. As I just said earlier, the only thing that changed with the debate is that more people came to that conclusion.
And all it would take to motivate the base - to get Democrats enthused in a way that they haven’t been since 2008 - is to throw open the nomination. That would bring the race a sense of excitement and hope that hasn’t just been missing since the debate, but all along.
At this point, I don’t even think of dumping Biden as just a satisfactory fallback position, but as a winning strategy, and specifically for this reason.
I see it as a prerequisite for victory.
It’s not as if Biden suddenly became a weak candidate the night of the debate - he’s been a weak candidate all along.
The debate just made it undeniable. The excuses for his performance at the debate have been even more embarrassing.
I agree with just about everything you say, but I have one question:
And all it would take to motivate the base - to get Democrats enthused in a way that they haven’t been since 2008 - is to throw open the nomination. That would bring the race a sense of excitement and hope that hasn’t just been missing since the debate, but all along.
What do you mean by “throw open,” exactly?
I would love a real second primary with an array of candidates not all of whom were preselected by the billionaires. And a large inclusive debate or two. Is that what you are suggesting?
Or maybe you mean let the billionaires and their purchased Dem elites make a selection for us in a smoke filled room behind closed doors?
I would love a real second primary with an array of candidates not all of whom were preselected by the billionaires. And a large inclusive debate or two. Is that what you are suggesting?
Yes.
Sorry - I thought “throw open” was a commonly understood phrase.
It means to open something suddenly and completely - no incremental stages and no limitations - just immediately from closed to fully and completely open.
I know what the phrase means but I didn’t dare to believe such an optimistic soul could exist. You proved my doubts were unwarranted.
Very cool, and I support your idea 120%! I believe it is possible because the DNC just routinely makes up rules on the go, so nothing’s stopping them from opening a second primary. I would be super interested if it were a truly open and a properly democratic primary.
At this point, I don’t even think of dumping Biden as just a satisfactory fallback position, but as a winning strategy, and specifically for this reason.
100%
It’s not as if Biden suddenly became a weak candidate the night of the debate - he’s been a weak candidate all along. As I just said earlier, the only thing that changed with the debate is that more people came to that conclusion.
100%
And all it would take to motivate the base - to get Democrats enthused in a way that they haven’t been since 2008 - is to throw open the nomination. That would bring the race a sense of excitement and hope that hasn’t just been missing since the debate, but all along.
and 100%.
Drop Biden and claim the W. Give us someone we can vote for and we will.
This is the most important bit IMO.
At this point, I don’t even think of dumping Biden as just a satisfactory fallback position, but as a winning strategy, and specifically for this reason.
It’s not as if Biden suddenly became a weak candidate the night of the debate - he’s been a weak candidate all along. As I just said earlier, the only thing that changed with the debate is that more people came to that conclusion.
And all it would take to motivate the base - to get Democrats enthused in a way that they haven’t been since 2008 - is to throw open the nomination. That would bring the race a sense of excitement and hope that hasn’t just been missing since the debate, but all along.
I see it as a prerequisite for victory.
The debate just made it undeniable. The excuses for his performance at the debate have been even more embarrassing.
Name one time…just one where replacing the incumbent 5 months from the general election worked.
This is not just a dumb idea, but people who think like this simply do not have a fucking clue how politics works.
Name one time we ran an 81 year old who brags about beating Medicare.
We’re already dealing with an unprecedented situation.
I agree with just about everything you say, but I have one question:
What do you mean by “throw open,” exactly?
I would love a real second primary with an array of candidates not all of whom were preselected by the billionaires. And a large inclusive debate or two. Is that what you are suggesting?
Or maybe you mean let the billionaires and their purchased Dem elites make a selection for us in a smoke filled room behind closed doors?
Yes.
Sorry - I thought “throw open” was a commonly understood phrase.
It means to open something suddenly and completely - no incremental stages and no limitations - just immediately from closed to fully and completely open.
I know what the phrase means but I didn’t dare to believe such an optimistic soul could exist. You proved my doubts were unwarranted.
Very cool, and I support your idea 120%! I believe it is possible because the DNC just routinely makes up rules on the go, so nothing’s stopping them from opening a second primary. I would be super interested if it were a truly open and a properly democratic primary.
100%
100%
and 100%.
Drop Biden and claim the W. Give us someone we can vote for and we will.
Or just vote for the guy who has had win after win after political win for years now.
Have you all been living under a rock? Policy wise Biden is killing it!
We already knew he was old. Nothing has changed.