and after casually admitting to dragnet mass surveillance, they had the audacity to later force a redaction. see below:
- Then: https://archive.ph/wIt8h
- Now: https://archive.ph/ny28k
and after casually admitting to dragnet mass surveillance, they had the audacity to later force a redaction. see below:
Offline some occupations also have a duty to report.
If someone buys large amounts of a certain fertilizer and the store owner don’t recall them being a local farmer. And it has to be that type specifically and not one of the other fertilizer types recommended. Its considered a red flag, and i think in such cases its fair
Thats no excuse for how little police respects privacy online at all. But you can see how its the same idea recycled.
There is a big difference between someone printing a gun and building an actual bomb.
You’re probably talking about ammonium nitrate specifically. And once you’ve made your explosive with it, you still need to make something to detonate it, since it’s pretty stable without that; it’s not like sweating dynamite.
ANFO was used to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, so the feds take that pretty seriously.
You mean tannerite?
No he means ammonium nitrate. It’s used as a fertilizer and when mixed with a fuel it becomes ANFO which is the explosive that McVeigh used in Oklahoma City.
Not a clue, the people who told me about this system weren’t allowed to tell me any details.
You are right. Fertilizer is a big boom when mixed with the right stuff.
If a crime had been committed and could then be linked back to someone buying that fertilizer then sure. But doing so beforehand is wrong because
Privacy is not a crime.
Just because someone could use something for something bad doesn’t mean they will and I think it doesn’t mean they should be monitored before there is any other indication that they could be about to commit a crime. Sure if they bought a truckload of it that’s a red flag maybe but even then, we have really just given up privacy in such a way that something you buy that is a legal thing puts you on a list just for having bought it once.
How long until they monitor the States medical marijuana programs and kick in everyone’s door for conspiracy to commit a federal crime? Sounds far fetched doesn’t it?
Almost like being on a list for buying a 3D printer, or fertilizer. Pretty fucked up its like that to be honest. Is mass surveillance really the answer here?
Imo, only if the bomb is passively a threat to others.
Agree on the sentiment. But the bomb i meant is a different scale. if recreational or scientific explosives are what you want are you really going to do so using an actual truckload of industrial fertilizer? Most people don’t have that kind of pocket money to burn either.
Having done some research the most famous bombing using fertilizer was the Oklahoma city bombing in 95. Which used about 5000 pounds of fertilizer and resulted in the death of over 150 people. Over 600 injured.
A farmer may need more then 10 times that amount annually. So for them this is a normal purchase.
But if your not a farmer, requesting such amounts. It should be standard to at least show your Mythbusters member card instead or something.
And in that case, the collection of explosives could potentially be a passive threat to others. Imo, the laws surrounding it should depend on the context — ie threat to public safety.