• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    You realize you are part of the rabid mob too then? Instead of listening to people with which you mostly politically agree, you immediately resort to shitting on and scapegoating them by jumping to a wild conclusion. This type of rhetoric is equally unhelpful.

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      5 months ago

      And that’s a fair assessment as well. It is a scapegoat to say those folks don’t support other leftist policies.

      However I must disagree that my conclusion was wild.

      My train of thought is, people say they support making peoples lives better and implementing policies proven to work and be more cost effective.

      When it comes time to ‘nut up’ and do it, their chosen representatives roll over and compromise and refuse to use the same governing tools used against them to stop the rise of fascism.

      Republicans famously grind the country to a halt with a minority. It’s their whole shtick, and yet they sail through these fascist policies nationwide with no fighting back from the Feds.

      Is it truly that like minded when the purpose of a system is what it does, and my fellow patriots choose the continued decline of society driven by capitalism?

      This, I believe, is the source of this leftist’s anger. Open denial of genocide by party leaders, while capital interests make life shittier literally every day, and no way out between “shit choice” and “literal fascist”.

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        My stake is that democrats aren’t Nazis. They just dont mind them very much. In fact your political opponents being actual nazis improves your election chances.

        There is no left wing in American politics.

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          No they are just complicit in the most obvious Genocide since 1940 while denying it is a Genocide.

          Nothing Nazi to see here. The Nazis were bad because they called themselves socialists. Not the Genocide thing right?

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            Are you agreeing in a contrary fashion? I am not sure what point you’re trying to make with your sarcasm. Seems like friendlyfire.

            They’re not the one actively doing the genocide themselves. They have actual nazis to do the dirty work for them and thats useful to maintain in power.

            Actual Nazis are a minority. People who don’t mind using nazis to accomplish all kinds of vile deeds are plenty.

            If anything i think that makes them worse then actuals nazis because the nazis i know irl at least have some excuse of being to simple minded to understand they are getting played by politics.

            With there is no left wing politics in America i mean i consider democrats are right wing. Bidden is authoritarian right winger and hes cool with weaponizing nazis.

            And yet the alternative… still worse… insanse planet.

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              Oh no I heavily disagree. Joe Biden plays the crucial role making israel’s Genocide possible. Without Netanyahu israel could continue the Genocide. Without Joe Biden they could not. He is in my book a straight up Nazi.

              In fact Joe Biden himself has something to say.

              ‘I am a Zionist’: How Joe Biden’s lifelong bond with Israel shapes war policy

              When Joe Biden met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet during his visit to Israel, the U.S. president assured them: “I don’t believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist.”

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                Ok yeah that quote is fascist what the actual fuck.

                The thing is. I have been talking here on very left and progressive Lemmy (at least a few months ago) about the Democrats are clearly right wing. And not at all center and not at all trying to be progressive (besides some tokens for the mass) and people, progressives that should be allies have been responding with so much hate because they are assuming i am saying “both sides are just as bad, theres no point voting D which must mean i want Trump to have his fantasy”

                I cant imagine people being more acceptive to what you’re saying but you have my moral support.

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                  Some people are trying to convince the left that Benito Mussolini is less evil than Adolf Hitler.

                  Which might be true. But at some point we’re going to have to ask ourselves why the we don’t just vote in someone that isn’t a hard-core right winger.

                  And the only answer seems to be Democrats fearmongering each-other into never voting for another party. The Democratic party is Stockholm Syndrome.

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            5 months ago

            Hey dude how does one fail to commit a genocide for 85 year while actively trying? With a massive power imbalance?