• salarua
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      6 months ago

      bikes don’t need pavement, just good wheels

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        Good luck with that, I highly doubt most of you have ridden off road, having pavement %100 helps with efficiency.

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            Haha what a crazy idea, what would you even call that? A bike for mountains? A mountain-style bike? Don’t be fatuous!

            Equally ridiculous would be of you made one for roads with gravel. Some sort of…gravel-friendly bicycle.

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            Cool, good luck with that efficient ride. Tell you what go ride through the woods to get to the store and then let me know how much easier it is.

            Ignorance is hilarious from you lot. You have street bikes and tires because… they’re more efficient that a mountain bike…but you do you.

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      Hmm, a 40-80ft wide road that needs to support thousands of pounds of cars, or 8ft of bike path that only needs to support a few hundred pounds of pedestrians/bikers.

      I wonder which needs more of a budget.

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        If everyone is on a bike, 8ft isn’t enough…also now you’re going to have even bigger cities since most people will need to return to the city from living further out.

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          If everyone is on a bike, 8ft isn’t enough

          This is silly for multiple reasons

          • Bike paths have significantly higher throughput than roads

          • This is not a mutually elusive choice, we can have multiple modes of transport

          • Rail transport & busses are more than capable of helping to reduce the load

          • I never once said “everyone should be on a bike”

          also now you’re going to have even bigger cities since most people will need to return to the city from living further out.

          This just makes no sense. The ratio of transportation types has little effect on city density, zoning is way more of a factor. And in addition to that, car centric infrastructure takes up significantly more space than other modes. Reducing car dependence would actually free up space.

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        6 months ago

        No but they’re closely related and often the same thing.

        The whole concept of “economically productive downtowns subsidize white flight suburbs ability to exist” is because of infrastructure, but it’s basically a subsidy.