Both of my teenage children and I happen to be non-binary. The scene in Discovery where Adira is semi-asleep at a console and Culber comes in using the wrong pronouns to refer to Adira, and Stamets corrects him and tells him Adira uses they/them pronouns, and Culber shifts seamlessly into it and the two of them have an entire conversation about them…that scene legit had me squeeing. I’d never seen such an exchange happen in any show, and it was perfection. It was meant to show well-meaning allies who struggle with gender-neutral pronouns how simple they are to use and how meaningful and important it is to honor them because the people who use them are important.
I am neither trans, nor would I ever presume to speak on behalf of trans people. The reason I posted this is because, over the years, this specific meme has been presented repeatedly as evidence that Klingons are excepting of trans folx.
As such, I think it’s safe to assume that, yes, it carries meaning of (at least some) importance.
In that, I hope my own presentation here is thusly interpreted as an expression of goodwill.
I guess I was more hoping to hear people’s stories about seeing that and what it meant to them when they first saw it. I like hearing how Star Trek inspires people and makes them feel more accepted.
Except for the stan I seem to have picked up. Downvotes everything of mine. Given the posts/comments they dont hit, I suspect they’re on either sh.it just.works or hexbear based on a pattern analysis of which instances I post in and which instances are defederated from them.
I read a book about the realization that 50% of other people won’t like you, won’t like what you say, your style or whatever. That’s true to life and always good to have in your mind, so you don’t let everything get on a personal level to you.
But there’s always that one special idiot that may also stan you.
When I first saw this, I was in a different point in my life and didn’t know who I was (I only knew I was angry and miserable), and I loved that Kor immediately accepted her. It made sense to me. I don’t know if it was subconscious or not, I’ll probably never know.
But I know I really love this scene now, and I’m grateful to the show writers and producers for including it, especially after learning about the uphill battle they faced to integrate themes like this. Inclusion matters and makes a difference, even if stupid assholes complain. It’s a lovely scene, and I’m forever grateful.
It was really disappointing to learn what a colossal dick Berman is, but it did explain why he was almost completely absent in that DS9 documentary and why no one bothered to mention him. Yeah, terrible choice for a Trek (or any progressive program) showrunner.
If there are any trans people here, did that scene mean a lot to you when you saw it?
Both of my teenage children and I happen to be non-binary. The scene in Discovery where Adira is semi-asleep at a console and Culber comes in using the wrong pronouns to refer to Adira, and Stamets corrects him and tells him Adira uses they/them pronouns, and Culber shifts seamlessly into it and the two of them have an entire conversation about them…that scene legit had me squeeing. I’d never seen such an exchange happen in any show, and it was perfection. It was meant to show well-meaning allies who struggle with gender-neutral pronouns how simple they are to use and how meaningful and important it is to honor them because the people who use them are important.
That’s awesome! I am really happy for you and your kids that Star Trek did that for you.
I am neither trans, nor would I ever presume to speak on behalf of trans people. The reason I posted this is because, over the years, this specific meme has been presented repeatedly as evidence that Klingons are excepting of trans folx.
As such, I think it’s safe to assume that, yes, it carries meaning of (at least some) importance.
In that, I hope my own presentation here is thusly interpreted as an expression of goodwill.
I guess I was more hoping to hear people’s stories about seeing that and what it meant to them when they first saw it. I like hearing how Star Trek inspires people and makes them feel more accepted.
Of course, sure. Sorry, I just wanted to clarify my motivation for posting, not to pre-empt anyone else from sharing!
Your post was appreciated by all, I’m sure.
Awww ❤️
Except for the stan I seem to have picked up. Downvotes everything of mine. Given the posts/comments they dont hit, I suspect they’re on either sh.it just.works or hexbear based on a pattern analysis of which instances I post in and which instances are defederated from them.
I read a book about the realization that 50% of other people won’t like you, won’t like what you say, your style or whatever. That’s true to life and always good to have in your mind, so you don’t let everything get on a personal level to you.
But there’s always that one special idiot that may also stan you.
/s sent with silly kindness
No offense or anything similar taken from my part. On the contrary, it suits perfectly.
Yeah, well, fuck whoever’s downvoting. Bigots don’t count.
My ex cried when watching this scene for the first time after coming out as trans
When I first saw this, I was in a different point in my life and didn’t know who I was (I only knew I was angry and miserable), and I loved that Kor immediately accepted her. It made sense to me. I don’t know if it was subconscious or not, I’ll probably never know.
But I know I really love this scene now, and I’m grateful to the show writers and producers for including it, especially after learning about the uphill battle they faced to integrate themes like this. Inclusion matters and makes a difference, even if stupid assholes complain. It’s a lovely scene, and I’m forever grateful.
Obligatory angry glare at Rick berman for personally standing in the way of true lgbtq representation allowing only scraps and subtext instead
It was really disappointing to learn what a colossal dick Berman is, but it did explain why he was almost completely absent in that DS9 documentary and why no one bothered to mention him. Yeah, terrible choice for a Trek (or any progressive program) showrunner.