Is one juror making eye contact to send signals to the defense—or “just doing that to fuck with us before they vote to convict”?
  • Funderpants @lemmy.ca
    1292·
    6 months ago

    Juror #2 an “investment banker” who gets all their news exclusively from Trump Truth social and Elon twitter. The red hat is there to save the day, hang the jury on some nonsense to protect the cult leader.

    If I’m wrong, and the jury convicts, point to this thread and I’ll donate $25 to charity.

    The observers in the court won’t say who it is, but I guarantee its that one.

    Edit: I have chosen Special Olympics Canada as the charity.

    Edit2: I was wrong, I will make that donation tonight and post the blurry receipt

    • HornyOnMain@fedia.io
      60·
      6 months ago

      To balance it out and give to charity regardless of the outcome, I’ll donate $50 if you’re right. That way there’s always something good happening even if it may be small.

    • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
      30·
      6 months ago

      Nah. Most jurors are paying attention to the evidence. Trump supporters aren’t the lone rebels they think they are. There’s literally a mountain of evidence and the prosecutor’s closing argument was 6.5 hours long (not including breaks).

      Every other person in that jury room is going to want to go home and won’t put up with someone stopping them. Even if this dude tries anything (he probably won’t), he’s going to crack by day 3.

      I bet we see a guilty verdict for at least some of the charges within 3 days.

        • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
          5·
          6 months ago

          Some jurors just asked for and received a laptop from the prosecution with all the evidence on it. That means they won’t have to ask to view individual pieces of evidence, which will make this much faster.

          That tells me they are interested in the evidence and that they want to get this over with. A possible quick (3 day) decision would mean they are done by Friday.

            • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
              42·
              6 months ago

              No, it doesn’t. You’re watching too much 24 hour news or something. These jurors don’t just silently vote, they discuss the case for the entire time.

              Any juror is going to be asked by the others how they came to their conclusion. There’s no way to get away with it without scrutiny. Trump supporters can’t stand scrutiny, especially not with this much evidence and 34 felonies! They should convict on at least some of them. Trump literally signed the checks.

              • eran_morad@lemmy.world
                41·
                6 months ago

                You’re being naive. MAGA fucktards are not the sort of people who give a fuck about facts and revel in the thought of pissing off the decent among us.

                • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
                  61·
                  6 months ago

                  No, you’re being naive if you think one person can stand in the way of 11 New Yorkers who want to go home for the weekend.

    • SarcasticMan@lemmy.world
      122·
      6 months ago

      If you are right I will donate $25 worth of Monopolowa to my stomach.

      Edit: convicted lol I donated the Monopolowa anyway skål or should I say dzięki or would it be prost fuck it cheers!

    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
      1·
      6 months ago

      I had saved this thread! Woo hoo! Glad you pulled through with your promise.

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
      411·
      6 months ago

      This is why there are alternates, tho. If the judge says the evidence is there to convict then the jury doesn’t have a choice. If one juror is a holdout they just get replaced by an alternate.

      • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
        16·
        6 months ago

        Um. This is entirely inaccurate. I think you may have been misled.

        The judge is the arbitor of law (only) during the guilt/innocence phase. The jury is the arbitor of fact (only). Only the jury can determine what the facts of the case are, not the judge. In this way, only the jury can determine if sufficient factual evidence exists to fulfill the elements of a crime.

        Alternates take the place of jurors who leave (usually for health or family emergency), but jurors cannot be asked to leave because of their decisions in deliberation.