On Tuesday, voters in Crook County passed measure 7-86, which asked voters if they support negotiations to move the Oregon/Idaho border to include Crook County in Idaho. The measure is passing with 53% of the vote, and makes Crook County the 13th county in eastern Oregon to pass a Greater Idaho measure.
This is so damn odd, it’s a state. Just move. It’s not another country. Shit like this is what makes me think we should just abolish the states honestly. This mindset is weird
Some people are too poor to move. Just move is an insane idea and we need to eradicate it.
Just move is a perfectly legitimate idea when the only reason you want to move is because a political ideology. Not even political ideology wanting to impose your political ideology. If this was an economic issue I would never say just move. If this was a persecution issue I would never say just move. If this was any legitimate issue I would never say just move. However this is obviously, pathetically obviously, none of those things. They don’t like the people around them. They’re bigots. Bigots should move.
Frankly I think it’s absurd that you’re even suggesting that they have some kind of legitimate gripe. Equating their issue to anything legitimate is beyond ignorant.
Fucking EXACTLY!
claiming these assholes are the disenfranchised ones is full on fascist lies. Sickening.
So moving is an insane idea, but transferring huge portions of land between states is totally rational and reasonable?
Considering that it’s just some imaginary line in the dirt that a bunch of people agree on the location of, yeah it’s a lot more rational than everything you go through to physically move
lol what?!?
The concept of “Idaho” is an entirely societally defined concept. If everyone agrees you are in Idaho, then you are in Idaho. If all you care about is being in Idaho, and you can do that with less effort and resources than physically moving across state lines, why wouldn’t you do that?
I think it’s a pretty short sighted and selfish thing to do, but it is entirely rational.
If you’re living paycheck to paycheck, you can’t afford to move. You can’t afford the moving van, you certainly can’t afford a week or two without work, and you can’t afford to go to job interviews in the place where you want to live.
But if you don’t have to move, and instead you work with people around you to change the current geopolitical structure, that’s something that you can help be a part of by signing a petition or driving down to your town hall it’s a month for a meeting.
I agree with you that overall it would make sense for people to move, but logistically many of them can’t. And even if they could, maybe they like the place they live. Maybe they’re lucky enough to own property, and the problem they have is not with their neighborhood, so they’d rather not replace it.
According to the people in power. Correct.
The “people in power” didn’t suggest that moving is an insane idea, you did.
Yeah my apologies I was more responding to the second half of your commentary as it’s obvious I suggested that not them.
The cost of living is cheaper in Idaho! They’d just be giving up things like 1/3 the per student spending, physicians leaving to avoid idaho’s abortion laws, and face lower road spending, worse unemployment rights… I mean the benefits are right there. For the rest of us in Oregon. Sign here, press hard, 3 copies. Finally we can get rid of those walkout issues in the house.
Oregexit your hearts out. Don’t let the non gendered bathroom handle hit you on the ass as you go.
Seems like a stupid vote then: choose to leave a state with at least some services to join one without, just to make it easier for a few landowners to extract resources without regard to the environment
The idea of States and federal governments make no sense to me. Same country but different set of laws? Why even form a country?
The United States formed as a group of semi-sovereign political entities that wanted to make their own laws, but needed a common defense, foreign, and trade policy to prevent recolonization.
The founding fathers knew that the country wouldn’t agree on everything, so they set up a system where a lot of decisions would be made by more local officials.
Other federations work on the same principle. It is a lot easier to get political consensus in a smaller group than a larger one, so a lot of decisions are pushed to more local entities.
Look at lemmy. Same country, different laws per instance and different laws in the communities.
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I don’t understand what the country is in your analogy
The country is Lemmy the software itself.
Well, the federation. You could have many federations, and many instances don’t use Lemmy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalism?wprov=sfla1
It’s not a country and never has been, it’s a union of states.
“State” in general terms usually refers to an entire country, notice the term “state department”
Nation States. At it’s core the federal government was meant to be basically like the EU, each member retaining autonomy but joining the union and agreeing to abide by its rules in order to gain access to collective benefits.
The reality of the situation is that this “country” was formed as a business proposition and that’s all it’s ever been. America is a business not a nation of people, the rest is pure propaganda.
States are the test tubes of government ideas.
Lol no
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