Working rn so indepth answer later but just lolled so hard that couldn’t help not answering
socialism is not a system of government.
Socialism is defined as the government either owning OR REGULATING the means of government.
Curious, which is it?
Kapparoflmaoooxdddd
You don’t understand that a government must use an economic system… for the economy.
Like do you not understand the difference between a form of government and a form of economy? Two distinct things.
Like talking about the shape and size of something. You don’t think circles are all big or small, right? You understand that shapes and sizes are different things right?
Fucking laughing my ass off here I’ll reply in depth in like 4 hours
Maybe don’t insist on the difference and then use the word “government” in your definition of socialism twice. If you don’t see any problem there, I’m not sure your answer will be worth reading
Did you read my whole comment? Because I’m not sure. But eitherway. Your definition was:
Socialism is defined as the government either owning OR REGULATING the means of government.
What even are “the means of government”? Isn’t it tautological that the government owns the means of government? That makes it to be a government in the first place, right? Or do you mean “the means of production”? Than you only define state socialism and not even that, it still fits to almost any monarchy or dictatorship. You would just define it as “not free market” which you on another spot say it is not. I’m really trying to follow you but you are not making much sense and refuse to answer me in a meaningful way.
But I understand that you seperate the two systems. I just think they are too intertwined to do so and I elaborate on that in my comment. We can agree to disagree without calling each other dumb. We can have a normal, constructive conversation about it like adults would. I have a different definition on socialism. Would you react to that? Or do I assume correctly that you did not read it?
Working rn so indepth answer later but just lolled so hard that couldn’t help not answering
Curious, which is it?
Kapparoflmaoooxdddd
You don’t understand that a government must use an economic system… for the economy.
Like do you not understand the difference between a form of government and a form of economy? Two distinct things.
Like talking about the shape and size of something. You don’t think circles are all big or small, right? You understand that shapes and sizes are different things right?
Fucking laughing my ass off here I’ll reply in depth in like 4 hours
Maybe don’t insist on the difference and then use the word “government” in your definition of socialism twice. If you don’t see any problem there, I’m not sure your answer will be worth reading
Uh, no.
You just don’t seem to understand.
The government may utilise socialism. It’s a tool for them.
You don’t seem to understand the difference between systems of government and economic systems, no matter how I try to dumb it down for you.
Did you read my whole comment? Because I’m not sure. But eitherway. Your definition was:
What even are “the means of government”? Isn’t it tautological that the government owns the means of government? That makes it to be a government in the first place, right? Or do you mean “the means of production”? Than you only define state socialism and not even that, it still fits to almost any monarchy or dictatorship. You would just define it as “not free market” which you on another spot say it is not. I’m really trying to follow you but you are not making much sense and refuse to answer me in a meaningful way.
But I understand that you seperate the two systems. I just think they are too intertwined to do so and I elaborate on that in my comment. We can agree to disagree without calling each other dumb. We can have a normal, constructive conversation about it like adults would. I have a different definition on socialism. Would you react to that? Or do I assume correctly that you did not read it?