• De_Narm@lemmy.world
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    US ‘democracy’ ist just fundamentally broken. All my life I’ve heard shit that dates back to Reagan, people always complain about it, yet neither party ever cared to fix things he broke. You guys really need more parties, but of course neither party is willing to change the system enough to make that viable since they’d give up power. That alone should call for mass protests.

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      Democracy is a progressive idea. It tends to work in spite of conservative opposition to it. Conservatives have ham-strung and sabotaged it since the beginning in the U.S. If they are ever able, conservatives will remove democracy entirely and replace it with whatever causes the most harm to the most vulnerable people.

      Nothing good in human history has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.

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      They’re (most are) willing to let one genocide facilitator carry on because other one might be worse. Like, the solution is not of try and stop the genocide, it’s about their fear of the other guy being worse. So basically wait and see if anyone even survives till the election and then forget anything ever happened.

      They have been so accustomed to choosing war criminals and such as their president, you can kill all the brown people out there for all they care. There’s literally no consequences so the psyche is why give a fuck now.

      Nothing logical gets through their thick skull about fixing things they’ve brought onto themselves. And if you even dare to critisize them, you’re part of a tankie/rusky/north korean psy ops. And that’s the end of it. The cognitive dissonance is just beyond logic.

      They’re just so afraid of the status quo changing that they might have to deal with shit, which is fine when they cause it on the other side the world.

      They are never the problem, everyone else is out to get them. Even when they’re in the very wrong side of the history. They’re winning. The brainwashing is real.

      Despicable people don’t deserve democracy.

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      I think the thing we got wrong isn’t democracy, but the fact that EVERYONE gets to vote. I just watched a YouTube video where these answers popped up:

      There are 4 moons

      3x3x3=9

      There are 13 states and they don’t know what the 50 stars on the flag are for

      Can’t answer which two countries border the us

      Thought the us gained its independence from france

      Didn’t know when the war of 1812 was

      Thought there were multiple civil wars

      These people vote. These people are manipulated to support parties and candidates that are terrible.

      There should have been a test before we earn the right to vote. Like the number of moons, the earth isn’t flat, and ignoring the antivax shedding/autism crap.

      THAT’S the problem with the US. Man we got some stupid people living here…

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        Hard disagree. Yes, there are a lot of uneducated people out there, but the solution should be to improve the education system itself.

        If we start excluding people, who would actually decide the questions on such a test? We all are biased towards something. You might as well end up being quizzed about the bible or even worse, get excluded because you don’t believe in certain conspiratory crap.

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          Despite my rant above, I also agree. There’s literally no way to do it without eventual abuse. It would never work. I came off more serious than I was.

          But you have to admit, there are a lot of people out there who you take one look at and think “man, I can’t believe that person gets a vote”.

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        6 months ago

        The above comment is by someone promoting fascism. They are cloaking it in down talking the right, but what they want is for you to accept that some are subject to others.

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          Umm no. Take your personal attacks elsewhere please.

          I’m commenting on the unfortunate education level of the average American. People who vote. People who are easily sucked into things like the maga cult or doing whatever their good Christian priest says. And yes from the left as well (although I would argue they don’t abuse it like y’allqueda does)

          I replied to another comment saying I agree it would never work. By default I’d be subjecting others to my beliefs, and that’s wrong. And yes, I do believe there are a whole bunch of people who can’t critically think for themselves and it’s scary that like half the country or more falls into that category.

          Education is probably the answer, or at least the only one I can think of. Democracy requires sane voices of the people, not the groupthink of a mob mentality. No matter the cost, I always vote in favor of expanding schools, paying teachers more, not cutting programs. We’ll never all agree on everything-but people need to weigh the pros and cons of any particular law/legislation, and realize that sometimes you should compromise and ditch this “own the other side” mentality.