I’m not saying anything is equal, I’m saying it’s complicated. Absolutely Israel must end the genocide and apartheid, but I really don’t think that’s all it would take to end hostilities. There needs to be a rebuilding, both of infrastructure and trust. I don’t see how that can happen under Israel or Gaza’s governments, they are being failed by their leadership.
I condemn the genocide. I’m just saying that it’s also a complex issue; lasting peace will take positive and nuanced action, simply ending the invasion and apartheid of Gaza is only the beginning.
I’ve been thinking a nation of states might work. Like Gaza, West Bank, and Israel could all have their own local governments and constitutions, but the federal government would be made up of representatives from each. With the current populations, Israelis would have a supermajority in any all-in-one state vote, but as a nation of states they would have to compromise.
Hmm, that’s a good point. I was thinking that a unitary government would be paralyzed by conflict around religious laws. A hijab is part of the school uniform for Palestinian girls, but would likely be opposed by large numbers of present day Israelis (just as an example); I was thinking that having states/provinces that could set their own policies could help alleviate some of those pressure points.
Though admittedly as an American I’m sure I have some level of bias for federated states, it just seems natural to me.
Largely, much of this hyper-religious policy comes from a lack of material development and mass industrialization. Advancing mode of production generally results in a more secular society with more progressive laws.
That’s true. Though some of the most economically prosperous nations still prefer to live with Islamic laws. The UAE has a higher per capita GDP than the US and still bases their legal system heavily on sharia law. I think sometimes it comes down to cultural differences more than material ones. Oman and Saudi Arabian also score very high on the human development index, but still prefer many ‘hyper-religious’ policies.
In general I think the trend is towards secular society with improved material conditions, but it can get dicey to try and prescribe a secular state on people who aren’t ready for it.
Regardless of the civil structure, if even just a fraction of what is currently spent on the IDF could go towards reparations and reconstruction, it would be amazing to see how quickly material conditions improve.
I’m not saying anything is equal, I’m saying it’s complicated. Absolutely Israel must end the genocide and apartheid, but I really don’t think that’s all it would take to end hostilities. There needs to be a rebuilding, both of infrastructure and trust. I don’t see how that can happen under Israel or Gaza’s governments, they are being failed by their leadership.
Any government of Palestine will be radically against Israel. It doesn’t matter who is in charge, the people of Gaza are dying rapidly.
I condemn the genocide. I’m just saying that it’s also a complex issue; lasting peace will take positive and nuanced action, simply ending the invasion and apartheid of Gaza is only the beginning.
Yep, a secular one state solution is the only viable long term solution.
I’ve been thinking a nation of states might work. Like Gaza, West Bank, and Israel could all have their own local governments and constitutions, but the federal government would be made up of representatives from each. With the current populations, Israelis would have a supermajority in any all-in-one state vote, but as a nation of states they would have to compromise.
There would have to be minority protections. Treating it like a group of ethnostates would perpetuate their current issues, it must be an equal state.
Hmm, that’s a good point. I was thinking that a unitary government would be paralyzed by conflict around religious laws. A hijab is part of the school uniform for Palestinian girls, but would likely be opposed by large numbers of present day Israelis (just as an example); I was thinking that having states/provinces that could set their own policies could help alleviate some of those pressure points.
Though admittedly as an American I’m sure I have some level of bias for federated states, it just seems natural to me.
Largely, much of this hyper-religious policy comes from a lack of material development and mass industrialization. Advancing mode of production generally results in a more secular society with more progressive laws.
That’s true. Though some of the most economically prosperous nations still prefer to live with Islamic laws. The UAE has a higher per capita GDP than the US and still bases their legal system heavily on sharia law. I think sometimes it comes down to cultural differences more than material ones. Oman and Saudi Arabian also score very high on the human development index, but still prefer many ‘hyper-religious’ policies.
In general I think the trend is towards secular society with improved material conditions, but it can get dicey to try and prescribe a secular state on people who aren’t ready for it.
Regardless of the civil structure, if even just a fraction of what is currently spent on the IDF could go towards reparations and reconstruction, it would be amazing to see how quickly material conditions improve.