• sin_free_for_00_days
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    10 months ago

    The GOP attitude toward Dreamers is just another side of their bigotry, hate, and short-thinking ignorance. We, as a society, want people to have access to health care for a multitude of reasons. But not the good ol’ GOP shitheads.

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      10 months ago

      When veterans cant get healthcare and illegals can, theres something very wrong. What should happen is them getting deported. Otherwise, it just encourages more illegal immigrants.

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      10 months ago

      Does it not strike you as odd to say “we as a society want X, except for [approximately half of the people in our society who want the opposite of X]”?

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        10 months ago

        Not really. People who don’t want healthcare are saying they don’t really care if diseases and misery spread to all and show an incredible, painful ignorance of science. Fuck 'em.

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          10 months ago

          Yeah, you can’t apeal to “society has decided X” as an argument, if you also hold that half the people in society don’t count because you disagree with them. That’s actually the opposite of what ‘society’ means in that context.

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      10 months ago

      Dreamers are illegal immigrants who were abused by their parents. This does not mean we shouldnt deport them.

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          10 months ago

          Deportion is not abuse, why on Earth would it be?

          I think we have fundementally different ideas of what abuse and deportation are

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            10 months ago

            Deportion is not abuse

            The recipients of DACA are young people who have grown up as Americans, identify themselves as Americans, and many speak only English and have no memory of or connection with the country where they were born.

            You would send someone to a country they have no memory of, no connection to, and cannot speak the language and not call it abuse? They’re not being sent home. They’re effectively being sent to a foreign country.

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                10 months ago

                It’s not an apt comparison.

                It is not sending a random person to a random country.

                It is sending a citizen of that country back to their country.

                One can agree or disagree with doing it, but it isn’t a random person being sent to a random country.

                If we want to get particular, it is the right thing to do under international law.

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      10 months ago

      Ah, Ye Olde sophist personal attack, the bastion of those with no argument to make.

      Welp, you’ve convinced me.

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        10 months ago

        It’s not a personal attack. It’s a statement of fact. Don’t like it? Don’t lie.