Nowadays its all about monetization :/
Lemmy is kinda refreshing and reminds me a lot of the early internet/reddit.
Yeah me too.
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As the cycle continues the more niche places will continue to have that feel. Always vigilant for the nuttos but comes with it being a non mainstream community. Good and bad.
Thats the crux of it all. The a lot of the funniest videos 15+ years ago were just random videos on random accounts. There was no monetary incentive, so a lot accounts were just people who luckily captured something funny and uploaded it. Creative stuff felt authentic too, they were not chasing a trend, they were just trying to show off their original skills. I still love a lot of what we have today, but it is getting buried by trend chasers.
Nowadays…
If there is one eternal constant in human history, it’s that every generation inaccurately believes that the problems they face are new.
Human creates thing.
Thing is cool.
Humans exploit thing.
Thing is no longer cool.
Humans reminisce about how cool the thing used to be, and lament the loss of cool.
If Lemmy gets popular enough, it too will be monetized and we’ll al have to find somewhere else to go.
If the future involves big popular mainstream paid instances, it sounds like the fediverse was a success.
Lemmy won’t be what it is now, but our niche instances can still exist.
I don’t think there will ever be a place like the old web again. Lemmy is better than reddit, but lots of the crap from there is just as common here, stuff that really wasn’t as common before. I’m absolutely certain a disturbing amount of people say dumb shit, make spelling mistakes and stuff like that simply to get “interraction”.
Culture changes. The best we can do is keep influencing it for the better, just wherever we’re able.
I can’t speak for everyone, but I post more frequently here than I did on reddit because we gotta get those numbers up.
Just with a lot more communists
Explains why it’s not monetized to shit
Just don’t let a communist government get hold of it.
That’s an oxymoron, comrade!
It hasn’t reached the critical mass for monetization. It’s not ripe for the picking yet.
I was to comment that this realization came to me when I’ve found an antique but active forum about gore, that I can’t access it anymore, and I’m stuck thinking if it’s for the better.
Whenever I feel like this, I just visit https://zombo.com and I feel better. Anything is possible at https://zombo.com.
Where you can do anything! I love that this still exists.
It’s a cycle we all go through. My “when the internet was good” was when long-form text content ruled, before memes and videos took over. The kids of today will fondly remember the deep fried memes and TikToks from before the human race became functionally extinct.
ITT: anon realizes the world doesn’t stop changing for everyone, what once was will soon cease to be
You’ll be alright OP
All is temporary. Change is the only constant.
Technically change isn’t a constant. Eventually everything will stop changing, because all of the atoms will have drifted too far apart to react to each other, and the universe will just be a thin soup of everything that will never touch anything ever again. Tomorrow is Wednesday, though, so only a few more days until the weekend!
We don’t know that for fact, we can’t even agree on the age of the universe. Maybe there’s a big crunch
I don’t think it’s been ruled out for certain, but I believe the data is looking incredibly bad for big crunch enthusiasts, since the discovery of dark energy.
Edit: from the Big Crunch Wikipedia page:
The vast majority of evidence indicates that this hypothesis is not correct. Instead, astronomical observations show that the expansion of the universe is accelerating rather than being slowed by gravity, suggesting that a Big Chill is more likely. However, some physicists have proposed that a “Big Crunch-style” event could result from a dark energy fluctuation.
Dark energy is a bit of a meme, have the inconsistencies with jws and hubble been resolved yet?
I take issue with discovery. To say there’s a mysterious inexplicable expansion of the universe hardly qualifies as such. It sounds more like a failure to understand our physical laws than to posit the presence of mysterious and otherwise undetectable entity.
The use of the word “discovery” in this case was carefully considered. The discovery of “dark energy” refers to the effect: the unexpected acceleration of the expansion of space. The fact that the expansion is accelerating was a discovery, and dark energy is just the name given to “whatever causes that”.
If the atoms continue drifting, then that in itself is still change.
Yeah, that really drives home the point that the only rule is that everything is temporary.
But by that point, cognition itself will be a physical impossibility, so is the the lack of change even real if there’s nothing to conceptualize its truth, and thus capable of declaring: “Nothing will ever change anymore”?
You are mixing philosophy and fact. It doesn’t matter what can or can’t be perceived. If you blindfold yourself, the world doesn’t go away.
Except war. War never changes.
No, assassin’s creed gameplay never changes
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”- Percy Shelley
OP sails off into the west
While I’ll agree the internet has been overrun by shortform shit, calling internet memes uncreative is such a boomer-ass take. This guy is just nostalgia baiting for points.
What points on 4chan?
Brownie points.
From a 4chan premium account
Get enough and eventually you become nonymous
I think you go from Anon to Fam
I think for 4chan any post that doesn’t result in you getting called a slur is considered a +1
Yeah, plenty of Gen Z memes still make me laugh. They’re just in different forms, including some video “templates” where you just slap some captions on characters in the same scene:
- Starship troopers “I’m doing my part” montage interrupted with Tim Robinson “I didn’t do shit!”
- Diary of a Wimpy Kid scene with kids auditioning from by singing Total Eclipse of the Heart, giving way to some kid who’s actually good.
Are they really that different from some high quality gifs or deep fried memes from the late 2010’s, advice animals from the early 2010’s, demotivational posters or absurd flash animations from the 2000’s, or joke websites from the 90’s?
People will always be funny, and some internet jokes will start fresh before being run into the ground. Remember the ones you like, and then forget the ones you don’t.
They’re molding after all
spotlight ruined my humor the latest to do so.
Made this one for all the Anons out there
It’s basically Geocities in the modern world. You can explore rabbit holes, make your own site, and enjoy the wonders of the web of creativity.
Old guy here. Word.
YTMND
Strange this site still exists, thought it would have been well gone by now.
I’ve listened to leekspin for hour at work. It was great to numb my brain against the daily stress. I think my record was 6hours straight.
I’ve been using Protoweb on my 98 computer for some time now. Protoweb is a proxy for a old internet, mainly for old computers. (Not very secure, because http, but it is worth the time travel)
Anyway, it has WarpStream on it. It is basically a Old YouTube recreation, using unusual means to play videos (Flash, RealPlayer, or Windows Media Player.) It has what this guy is looking for. Also it has new videos, but mainly from retro computer YouTube channels.
https://protoweb.org/2023/12/10/warpstream-net-video-streaming-for-retro-pcs/
Lasted about as long as the Wild West.
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the darkweb is literally just the old internet, plus or minus some racism.
It’s great fun.
Idk about the minus part
it depends on where you go.
And where you go on the clear net.
There’s tons of racism on the clear net, and theres tons of racism on the darknet.
But there’s also shit like cookbooks on the darknet.
Indeed there are cookbooks. Lots of cookbooks for absolutely anything anyone could ever cook, for any meaning of the word “cook”.
Let 'em cook
hey man, people gotta eat, what can i say.
Might as well eat good, and in your own little privacy bubble as well.
I think that’s the whole point. But before, it was all just a simple Google search away, no SEO in sight. Being capable of surfing the web properly already was at the time THE test to get in, much like private forums often have some kind of interviewing process. It felt a little more nerdy, and well organized, as you actually had to be both things to contribute. As it always was.
it’s so much more visceral, in the sense that it’s just fucking html 90% of the time. And it’s incredible.
Light the way friend.
i am sorry i cannot do that for you.
It would fuck up the name.
Nice try, FBI agent
hey! I’m a CIA agent!
Nice try, KGB spy
listen, i’m just working for the chinese! No need to be so aggressive.
I’ve always said the same thing myself: I miss the Internet just there for fun. Now they try to make a living out of it; either in good faith or scamming you.
BackInMyDay.jpg we used the net for looking stuff up. Mozilla 1.0 was faster than gopher and something something altavista web crawler grey hair getOffMyLawn.gif
But it was a special time, back at the uni in 92 and using the 56k link (!!) to play muds/moos on a server in f’n Bosnia. Or read the MTG mailing list. Uh, I mean, do class work. No commercial things even on there really. Before Amazon, Google, Myspace, etc.
Life Internet was so simple back then. None with all these fancy gadgets and instantaneous loading of
pornimages and videos! Just living in the moment, being patient to wait for your favourite Internet material to load for 2 hours!
I remember being excited when people on the television or “irl” would mention anything to do with computers or even the internet.
Like wow mainstream culture is talking about the niche nerd thing that I love!
Now the internet is the mainstream culture.
Need that meme play list link.
I’m so over YLYL thread’s full of fluigiwiggle shit
generic influencer reacting to another generic influencer reacting to tiktoks (sometimes from another generic influencer)
… … Wocky Slush
If you want to get really old school: I miss web rings.
web
real old school is BBS.
BBS
real old school is reconfiguring vacuum tubes in your warehouse sized computer
Ha, you kids and your fancy new fangled vacuum tubes. REAL old school is using a bunch of relays we nicked from the local telephone exchange!
Can you explain what that is for us youngsters? Something like RSS feeds?
As a website owner, you would just register your site with a ring and then add a bit of HTML at the bottom of your page which would display the randomly-selected banner of another site in the ring (and your banner would sometimes be displayed on another site). So visitors could just click on the banners and be taken through a circuit of interesting (sometimes) websites.
Ah, so basically a list/group of partner sites
But, like, for non-commercial fan sites, not for influencers.
Not really, because you would click an arrow to get to the next website. It didn’t list everything out.
Does that still exist? I have a subpage on my website with interesting links, this could be something for it.
I haven’t seen a web ring in more than 20 years.
Sailor Moon Web Ring 4 Lyfe!
In my experience a lot of programming blogs still have them, but then again those are the people who are most capable of adding them and who are mostly likely to find them