What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?
If Trump is elected, I will blame both Biden AND the protest voter.
But not the people who chose someone supporting genocidal actions instead of the people demanding better.
It’s this simple, if all of y’all who spend your time trying to convince those of us who don’t want to support sending Israel all the weaponry they want, while defending them against the consequences of their own actions, while using our money to do so, and having Israel use $13b a year of our money to do so, would instead work with us, we could actually make a change:
And if at the end of the day that causes us to lose, it means that America is full of people who support this and they should get their way.
At least we find out where we really stand.
You guys spend all day trying to drag us to the side of “ Okay with sending bombs to kill more children.”, maybe you could drag people to the side of “Let’s not send more bombs to kill kids:”
I know which side I am staying on, and if we get outvoted, such is democracy.
People demanding better is not a side, and thus cannot win. The let’s not bomb kids side has zero power. Your choice is between bombing kids and bombing more kids. Enabling the bombing more kids side means your fake morals outweigh the sloppy real-world political situation that actually exists.
Your house is on fire. You are standing equidistant from a full petrol can and a bucket of water, and you’re deciding not to act because neither is the perfect solution.
In the short term, your position is justifiable. But in the long term, it’s anti-democratic. The reasoning you’ve provided here has been used for many elections in the past and can be used forever into the future. But if we’re forced to choose between two bad parties, and there’s never a chance of a third party accomplishing anything good, then nobody will ever represent us.
And if we’re stuck in a non-democracy forever, then it makes sense for people to pursue other more radical solutions. Is that what you want? It’s the natural implication of your message.
Okay, whatever, while you’re planning your grand revolution thing can you please for fucks sake vote for the option that kills fewer kids?
Your desire to support the two-party system above all else is what leads to alienation, on the right and on the left. It’s you who is pushing the country towards a grand revolution, not me.
The two party system is, it doesn’t need my support and your abstaining from participation will not harm it. The two party system will chug merrily along until Republicans end democracy.
Your comments are contradictory. First you say I should vote, and then you say it’s pointless. Meh.
It’s only pointless if you don’t care who wins. Voting won’t change the two party system, at least not directly and not any time soon. It will change who wins this November, and that’s a very important thing.
Or work with us to pick a different candidate.
Make clear we won’t stand for him and that their only option is to run a new candidate.
As long as you keep giving them what they want, they won’t change
Name one candidate with the name recognition to win who has also expressed an interest in running in 2024.
Ah, there’s the rub isn’t it, they wont run another candidate because everyone is supposed to just fall I. Line.
Run Whitmer, she did great things in WI
And conspiracy theories, like it always boils down to. “They” lol.
Whitmer would be sending aid to Israel. Every politician would.
Then we pick someone who wouldn’t.
Would it be difficult? Yes
Would it have a chance to fail? Yes
Would the stakes be high? Yes
Would it be the most American fucking thing to do, to stand up for what is right instead of easy, to protect those who need it most, to take the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, and to stand shield for them? Yes
Fuck Nationalism in all its evilness, instead let’s be what we said we would be and start fucking actually working towards it.
Let’s live up to that, instead of aiming for mediocrity.
America is at its best when it’s the underdog.
Very convenient that your all-American idiot plan almost certainly hands a win to Putin-loving Republicans 😂