• Buelldozer@lemmy.today
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      7 months ago

      No. You don’t get to deny the very real PERSONAL harm done by this condition. No amount of socioeconomic changes could ever stop the personal problems.

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        7 months ago

        Nobody denies ADHD causes personal harm. But the cause of that harm is the rigid society not being facilitating to people with ADHD.

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      7 months ago

      I think it’s a personal problem too, because the human condition itself demands certain tasks that we might struggle with, but I absolutely understand what you’re saying.

      Despite my positives with ADHD, like being able to flip between constant emergencies all day, and getting constant praise for my work, my last job was threatening to fire me because they noticed I was 1 minute (literally 60 seconds) late a few times.

      Good riddance to 'em, they had no idea how much effort it took to get within that margin with traffic patterns that change literally every day. They were also okay with getting there ridiculously early and jusy idling their SUVs in the heat until they could go in. Clown world.

      I find that’s somewhat of a norm systematically. Society will think it’s “fair” to hold everyone to a standard of constant ridiculous feats of executive function that have no tangible effect on outcomes, measured by raw numbers at face value, and use this “data” to determine your worth as a person.

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        Despite my positives with ADHD, like being able to flip between constant emergencies all day, and getting constant praise for my work, my last job was threatening to fire me because they noticed I was 1 minute (literally 60 seconds) late a few times.

        yes, but this a very clear example of what exactly I’m saying, no? This is not a requirement of human nature or something. It’s just an idiot boss.

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          Absolutely! I guess I wasn’t arguing against you so much as saying “Well it’s a bit of both.”

          ADHD makes society’s ridiculous mandated coercion much more difficult, but it also gets in my own personal way when there’s things I want/need to do and it purposely sabotages me, y’know?

          It definitely creates a negative feedback loop. Socioeconomic pressures on ADHD brains make the personal tasks worse, which in turn make the socioeconomic ones more difficult, and round and round we go…

          I’m glad we can agree mutually on something with absolute certainty though: my boss was indeed, an idiot. 😉