• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    this is the monthly post of someone realizing that crowds of people in public venues, particularly large ones, draw snipers.

    Love to see it.

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      6 months ago

      that crowds of people in public venues … draw snipers.

      No, not here. Must be an american thing.

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      6 months ago

      In other parts of the world, snipers would draw in the authorities but I guess in the US they are LEO themselves

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      6 months ago

      Well yes, I knew that snipers are routinely deployed at large crowds. That is why this is posted here.

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        6 months ago

        i think you should post again but this time include all events this year that have had snipers at them, would be a fun little game of statistics i think.

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          6 months ago

          I wanted to find a list where deployed snipers where used to a positive effect in a crowded area. So far no luck…

          I could not find many good current reports on deployment in general. Here is some older info (2004) so the number is likely a wee bit higher now.

          https://www.policemag.com/special-units/article/15349350/swat-snipers

          some bits of note are:

          “The ASA study, which is titled “Police Sniper Utilization Report 2005,” revealed that contrary to the old 70-yard myth, the average range at which police snipers engage suspects is actually 51 yards.”

          and is funny when combined with:

          "The overwhelming majority of SWAT callouts do not result in shots fired by the SWAT team. ASA estimates that there are 10,000 callouts per year. Nationwide for the 20 years included in the study that adds up to about 200,000 deployments. ASA calculates that out of those 200,000 callouts only 172 incidents have ended with a SWAT sniper killing a suspect.

          The survey also shows that police snipers don’t always kill suspects that they fire upon, nor do they always intend to. ASA documents 219 SWAT sniper shootings. Of these, it’s known that 104 struck the suspect in the head or neck, 104 in the body, seven in the arm or hand, and two in a leg. The suspect died of his or her wounds in only 172 of these incidents.

          ASA notes that even some of the suspects who were shot in the head and neck survived their wounds. However, none of these suspects were shot in the brain or spinal cord. Instead, they were hit in the jaw or mouth."

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            6 months ago

            that’s certainly interesting, i just meant a generic list of all the times it’s happened, though more stats is always welcome, i’m sure they don’t exist yet though.