• Norgur@kbin.social
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    Imagine being stuck in your “I am the provider of this family” gender role so much that you turn down this kind of offer.

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        People underestimate the value of decent family benefits and the cost of child care. The benefits of having a stay at home parent breaks even way sooner than people think.

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          Depends on where in the world you are. Pre-kindergarten-daycare for a toddler costs about 300 € where I am, so two working parents are taking home way more than they have to pay additionally.

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            I would hope parents understand that spending time with their kids has value that cannot be replaced by money.

            I mean, you do what you have to to get by. Just don’t choose to spend time at work instead of with your kids.

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                Are you implying my point is invalid if I’m not? That’s called ad hominem.

                Respond to the point made, not the person making it.

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                  That isn’t an ad hominem. That would be if they called you stupid. It’s actually a very reasonable discussion point to ask if you have personal experience with this topic. This is a situation where having kids is probably important to make a well reasoned argument.

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                  Kind of ironic how you - instead of responding to the question asked - went into attack mode. There was no attack in there at all. In order to respond to the point made, it’s important to know if it is a point made from personal experience (as a parent) or from a theoretical standpoint of a non-parent. It does not invalidate the point itself, yet changes it’s perspective.

                  My answers will be different if there’s a fellow parent with different life experiences than me or if there is someone who’s seen parenthood more from the outside. Both change nothing regarding the validity, yet your reaction to a dentist telling something about teeth would be different than your reaction to a maths teacher telling you something about teeth, wouldn’t it?

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                    No, it wouldn’t, because that would be judging the statement based on the person making it, which is ad hominem.

                    When COVID was here and everyone was saying to wear a mask, were you one of the ones saying “you’re not a doctor”?