Does anyone think that there’ll ever be a simple EV car produced for market without all the extra junk found in most electric cars? Why or why not?

I don’t see the need for the infotainment dash, personal data tracking, self-driving, lack of physical buttons, and lack or reparability.

Wouldn’t it be nice to have an EV that is probably cheaper without all that forced extra stuff? Can’t we just have a simple EV that has an electric engine that is reliable, cheaper, and doesn’t have a need for constant software updates? Maybe you can work on it in your garage for the most part for simple maintenance.

I’d really like to have an EV one day but seems like they are all super expensive, have no sense of ownership like typical cars, are constantly tracking you, and are trying to shove extra features down your throat.

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    7 months ago

    I think so, once infrastructure is built out and battery tech has been perfected.

    As is, the market is small because you have to be a home owner (good luck charging in an apartment parking lot), and you need to bear the expense of new battery packs every few years.

    I could get an EV for my next car, but when my loan is paid off, I now need to get a loan for a new car, or new batteries. A gas car might be less reliable, but it will run for several more years with minor work after the loan is paid off.

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      7 months ago

      I think that makes sense. Seems to me that the EV market is mostly considered a luxury commodity at the moment and so isn’t being made as a dependable and meaningful alternative to ICE machines yet. It partly worries me though that some law initiatives are pushing for EVs but without addressing waste, and ownership and reliability that applies to dumb cars. I’ve owned my ICE car for almost 2 decades, and that’s something I’d like to see in an EV before I can make the switch.

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      7 months ago

      You are just spreading fud. Batteries do not wear out that quickly, and the infrastructure is here. I just recently drove through a tiny town in the middle of the mountains with less than 400 residents and they had three separate stations for charging, while they only had a single gas station in the whole town. The battery things you are saying are just completely false.

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        7 months ago

        Just because someone has a different experience from you doesn’t mean they’re lying. Things are different in different places and people have a myriad of different experiences with things for a variety of reasons.

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          You’re not stating your experience. You said outright:

          As is, the market is small because you have to be a home owner (good luck charging in an apartment parking lot),

          Incorrect, but availability nearby could affect your purchase decisions, even then you can buy a plug in hybrid and get the best of both worlds.

          and you need to bear the expense of new battery packs every few years.

          Factually incorrect, this isn’t an opinion, it’s just spreading misinformation.

          I could get an EV for my next car, but when my loan is paid off, I now need to get a loan for a new car

          Wait what? Why would you need a loan for a new car after your current car is paid off? This just doesn’t make sense.

          , or new batteries.

          I’ve literally never heard of anyone getting a loan to buy new batteries.

          A gas car might be less reliable, but it will run for several more years with minor work after the loan is paid off.

          This is just factually incorrect as well. EVs statistically run longer with less maintenance than the same cost ICE car.

          You might think I’m some EV fanatic, but I’m not I just hate misinformation being spread. Pretty much everything you said wasn’t opinion, it was just incorrect information. I have several ICE cars. I also have 1 EV. And I’ve done a shit-ton of research on the topic. Literally a cursory google would have shown you what you are saying is incorrect.

          Availability of fast chargers is pretty much the only “opinion” based thing (and that’s still not opinion). Not having access to a charger at your home is inconsequential if you have a Walmart nearby and you bought a Hyundai or Kia or Genesis for example, because you get free fast charging for two years.