It’s using the ceiling as a diffuser to soften it. Same way that photographers don’t normally point a light directly at a subject but instead use a diffuser like this
I agree that LEDs would probably work better with some kind of frosted glass as a diffuser but there are some high lumen LEDs that would work. They do get warm but not halogen warm.
Which is a horrible inefficient design and why it didn’t transfer with LEDs.
Shit light gets discontinued, not a surprise. It was also the design of the time, wall sconces are hardly found in new builds anymore. People have moved on to better designs and technology.
I’m guessing you’re getting down voted by all of us that want light to be reflected/diffused off the ceiling, and actively own LED versions of this lamp.
These exist, they make LED versions of this. I have 3 of them because I’m too lazy to crawl into the attic and install better lighting in the ceiling itself.
I too am a fan of pouring money down the drain on inefficient and useless lighting that needs to be 3x the power of other lighting!
The LEDs were to keep with the designs that these lights created with their necessary design, there are better and more efficient ways to achieve the same lighting as these towers.
I too am a fan of pouring money down the drain on inefficient and useless lighting that needs to be 3x the power of other lighting!
I don’t understand this take. A single LED bulb provides plenty of light for a bedroom, and two are plenty for a larger room. Your house doesn’t have to look like a doctors office with 700 downward facing lights.
…what are you even talking about? “better” lighting is completely subjective, I am happy with what my lights do and they are already LED, so there is no more efficient way to get the effects that I prefer.
It’s ok if you prefer different things, but you’re just crapping on other people’s subjective preferences as if your preference is the only right answer.
It’s like people are ignoring the person who asked why this didn’t transfer to LEDs. Yeah I know what the light was designed for, I literally said it, and then explained why it doesn’t work for LEDs. It was mainly a design to not trap the heat in, if they could do downward facing halogens… this light probably wouldn’t ever exist.
Sure, yeah a led bulb works in it, but you would need a powerful one negating the benefit and it’s also not designed for it. But of course someone will try and make a dime off of it, and some people will eat it up. Or they just think the thing looks nice, even though it’s useless.
It’s not like LEDs are noticeably dimmer compared to their tungsten/halogen counterparts. Theres no reason they wouldn’t work in this lamp and many lamps still have a very similar design.
Inverse square law. A brighter light will shine more light further away. These work since it’s such a bright point source. You would need powerful LEDs like COBs (which have the same flaws as halogen) to achieve the same effect.
Or… just hear me out. Less brightness is perfectly suitable.
Sure for “reading or crafting” you may want more direct light. But for like existing in a room? You don’t need 3000 lumens of 6000k highly directional light. One or two soft spread out sources is plenty for existing in a living room.
Downward facing ceiling lights don’t diffuse as well as an upward facing light bouncing off the ceiling.
If you get an Edison style LED those are generally OK in downward facing lights. But LED bulbs in general suck ass at diffusing without having something to bounce off of. An upward facing bulb on a popcorn ceiling is the perfect combo for nice diffused light in a room. There’s a reason why funkyass light fixtures and traditional light fixtures aren’t as popular.
Oh no, a bunch of people disagree with me… and I’m being downvoted… oh well… why do you think any of that matters?
These lights are a terrible design, and they are not a good design for LED, even though you absolutely can still use them. Other people would rather better spend the money on better lighting. Why is this so hard to believe?
Why do I need to change my opinion? Not every discussion is about making the other side agree with you, I’m providing discourse so we can all learn something, but if your intention here is to make me see your side… nah.
Its funny you say I’m refusing to accept others perspective, and yet in previous comments I address their uses and downsides. So no…? I’m more defending my valid opinions against a bunch of people just shouting there’s. How are you any different than me currently? I’m an ass for defending myself…? Okay.
It’s using the ceiling as a diffuser to soften it. Same way that photographers don’t normally point a light directly at a subject but instead use a diffuser like this
https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-a-light-diffuser-photography/
I agree that LEDs would probably work better with some kind of frosted glass as a diffuser but there are some high lumen LEDs that would work. They do get warm but not halogen warm.
When I take pictures of my cats, I blast my Emisar DT8’s overdrive mode at the ceiling and it diffuses the light PERFECTLY for sick, sharp cat pics.
PURRFECTLY
Which is a horrible inefficient design and why it didn’t transfer with LEDs.
Shit light gets discontinued, not a surprise. It was also the design of the time, wall sconces are hardly found in new builds anymore. People have moved on to better designs and technology.
I’m guessing you’re getting down voted by all of us that want light to be reflected/diffused off the ceiling, and actively own LED versions of this lamp.
These exist, they make LED versions of this. I have 3 of them because I’m too lazy to crawl into the attic and install better lighting in the ceiling itself.
I too am a fan of pouring money down the drain on inefficient and useless lighting that needs to be 3x the power of other lighting!
The LEDs were to keep with the designs that these lights created with their necessary design, there are better and more efficient ways to achieve the same lighting as these towers.
I don’t understand this take. A single LED bulb provides plenty of light for a bedroom, and two are plenty for a larger room. Your house doesn’t have to look like a doctors office with 700 downward facing lights.
…what are you even talking about? “better” lighting is completely subjective, I am happy with what my lights do and they are already LED, so there is no more efficient way to get the effects that I prefer.
It’s ok if you prefer different things, but you’re just crapping on other people’s subjective preferences as if your preference is the only right answer.
It’s wild how hard you’re getting raked over the coals here.You’re not wrong at all.edit after your responses to me I get entirely why you’re being downvoted. Your idea is kinda right but you extend it WELL past its bounds.
Unless it’s a traditional style bulb that is leds, those work pretty well in this style of lamp.
It’s like people are ignoring the person who asked why this didn’t transfer to LEDs. Yeah I know what the light was designed for, I literally said it, and then explained why it doesn’t work for LEDs. It was mainly a design to not trap the heat in, if they could do downward facing halogens… this light probably wouldn’t ever exist.
Sure, yeah a led bulb works in it, but you would need a powerful one negating the benefit and it’s also not designed for it. But of course someone will try and make a dime off of it, and some people will eat it up. Or they just think the thing looks nice, even though it’s useless.
It’s not like LEDs are noticeably dimmer compared to their tungsten/halogen counterparts. Theres no reason they wouldn’t work in this lamp and many lamps still have a very similar design.
Inverse square law. A brighter light will shine more light further away. These work since it’s such a bright point source. You would need powerful LEDs like COBs (which have the same flaws as halogen) to achieve the same effect.
Or more less powerful ones.
Or… just hear me out. Less brightness is perfectly suitable.
Sure for “reading or crafting” you may want more direct light. But for like existing in a room? You don’t need 3000 lumens of 6000k highly directional light. One or two soft spread out sources is plenty for existing in a living room.
So is the ceiling light that should already be installed in the room.
Downward facing ceiling lights don’t diffuse as well as an upward facing light bouncing off the ceiling.
If you get an Edison style LED those are generally OK in downward facing lights. But LED bulbs in general suck ass at diffusing without having something to bounce off of. An upward facing bulb on a popcorn ceiling is the perfect combo for nice diffused light in a room. There’s a reason why funky ass light fixtures and traditional light fixtures aren’t as popular.
Wait, no.
The place you’re wrong is where you’re acting like these lamps aren’t still used.
You can buy them at ilea for like 10 bucks.
I have 3 of this style and have incandescent style led bulbs in them. They work fantastic.
The directional panel leds you’ll see in modern LED fixtures are not a good fit for these, but others are.
Essential oils are a thing, people will buy anything, it doesn’t mean it’s practicable or there’s not far better options.
Sounds more like justification, the originals were meant to use one on a room, you say you have 3? Maybe get a single better light next time?
I own a house, I have multiple rooms.
If you choose to stop and have a more open mindset you’ll see you’re actually being downvoted for quite good reason.
Now I realize it’s because you’re being argumentative and refusing to try to see perspective you don’t understand.
Oh no, a bunch of people disagree with me… and I’m being downvoted… oh well… why do you think any of that matters?
These lights are a terrible design, and they are not a good design for LED, even though you absolutely can still use them. Other people would rather better spend the money on better lighting. Why is this so hard to believe?
Why do I need to change my opinion? Not every discussion is about making the other side agree with you, I’m providing discourse so we can all learn something, but if your intention here is to make me see your side… nah.
Its funny you say I’m refusing to accept others perspective, and yet in previous comments I address their uses and downsides. So no…? I’m more defending my valid opinions against a bunch of people just shouting there’s. How are you any different than me currently? I’m an ass for defending myself…? Okay.
Because we own lamps and have experience that extends beyond your narrow mindset.
Take care dude, I don’t care in the slightest about your opinion anymore.