• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    3 months ago

    It’s a really childish view of what voting is supposed to be. No, Biden isn’t everything you want, but Trump is a DUMPSTER FIRE who will actively make your life WORSE.

    So your choice is:

    1. Vote for Biden
    2. Don’t vote, and elect Trump
    3. Vote 3rd party and elect Trump
    4. Vote for Trump
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      Ok, and? What’s your plan to get people that are barely removed from actually being children to vote more? It’s easy to come up with a reason why each segment of non-voters is making a dumb and self-destructive choice by not doing their patriotic duty to elect the better leader, but like, we still need them to vote. Elections are won on turning out unreliable voters.

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        The only real plan, unfortunately, is experience. They failed to learn the lesson from 4 years of Trump, if the country survives another 4 years maybe they’ll think better next time.

        “Oh, shit, I totally should have voted!”

        Yeah, ya think?

        The best things we can do now are too late for '24:

        1. Push for universal vote by mail in ALL states. It eliminates the barriers to voting and increases participation.

        2. Get ranked choice balloting in ALL states. Alaska is embarrassing the rest of us.

        Just getting those two things would go a long way to permanently remove Republicans from power… which is why they won’t do them voluntarily.

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      Yup. That prefrontal cortex thing. Sadly, many people way past adolescence never seem to have a fully-functioning one, either.

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      No, Biden isn’t everything you want, but

      He’s everything anyone who says this wants.

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          The notion that all misgivings are bratty insistence on perfection is insulting to people who have serious objections.

          From people who have none.

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        That’s fucking stupid. Most of Biden’s base doesn’t fucking like him. Our two options both have really shitty approval ratings.

        We vote against the guy we hate the most here, not for someone we like.

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          We vote against the guy we hate the most here, not for someone we like.

          I’ve already said I’m voting for the pro-genocide candidate you prefer. I am not abstaining, nor voting for the other pro-genocide candidate.

          I am saying that if Biden does not cease his support for genocide, he will lose. You will blame me for his loss anyway because you don’t care how anyone votes, you just want performative unquestioning fealty to your guy.

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      “Hey, if that guy wins, he’s going to rob everyone then set fire to their grandmother. That means we can simply do nothing and it’s a shoe-in!”

      “Au contraire, mon frere. That means so long as we don’t set fire to people’s grandmothers, not only do we get to rob everyone, but they’ll thank us for doing it, and we will own them.”

      Yeah no. We’ll take the L just to see you get robbed too, and the smoke from your burning grandmothers will be as incense in our nostrils.

      If the motherfucker thinks people will give him a pass on genocide as tribute for saving the country from trump, he’s going to get a brutal fucking lesson in petty spite.

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              I didn’t kill anyone, I just gave the homicidal maniac a better gun. And then after he had already killed a lot of people, I went above and beyond to get him more ammo.”

              How do you feel about moral responsibility for people who fund terrorists? No harm, no foul as long as they’re not personally planting bombs?

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          Biden is selling weapons that he knows will be used to commit genocide.

          He should stop. Yes, Trump is worse. Yes, I’m voting for Biden. No one should be supporting genocide.

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        Your options are

        1. Genocide
        2. Genocide, but more of it
        3. Lol I don’t care.

        Do you wanna protest? Riot? Something more drastic? You can vote and do that, so long as you avoid a felony conviction.