• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    What in the world. I just mean that most people won’t consider Super Mario political but if it was trying to say that monarchy was the best thing ever then that would feel political to people.

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      8 months ago

      Okay, so that’s not actually using a definition, that’s what I like to call “vibes based meanings”, which are largely useless and serve only to reveal that most people have no idea what the word political means and just use vibes.

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        8 months ago

        Well yeah, that’s how people are. Why would you even expect there to be a solid and shared understanding between all the people about something as vague as what makes a game “political”?

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          8 months ago

          I don’t. I literally just said the opposite. I said people have no idea what the word means, and then you asked why I expect people to have a shared understanding of the word. Those are opposites. If people don’t know what a word means, then they can’t have a shared understanding. This should be obvious to you, pay attention.

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            8 months ago

            It just felt like early on you were expecting one and now are disappointed how people use the terms.

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              8 months ago

              No, I fully understand that the word politics is a racist dogwhistle that few people use meaningfully, and I understood it at the beginning. You presented a bunch of different theories as to the word’s meaning, I pointed out the problem with each of them, and we arrived back at the beginning, the headline of this article we’re all replying to.

              I use the logical definition of politics, which implies everything is political, as a starting point for these conversations which always end in the conclusion that people don’t know what they’re saying. I’ve had this conversation dozens of times.

              I’ll tell you why people don’t know what politics means. It’s because the rich don’t want them to know. Those who own the government and who are threatened by democracy do not want people realising that participating in politics is a good thing. So they use the media apparatus to teach people that politics is no fun, leads to hurt feelings, and never fixes anything. And people swallow that trick hook, line, and sinker.

              The ideal case for the rich is that most people hate politics, a select brainwashed few vote conservative while starting horrible culture wars, and nobody actually participates in democracy. And that’s what everyone who hates politics is supporting. The end goal is simple. It’s voter suppression. And along the way, there will of course be genocide as the cost of doing business.

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                8 months ago

                Does it really seem like such a far-fetched idea in our so heavily politicized world that someone would rather just play a bing-bing-wahoo game without having to really think about politics for a moment? I feel like that’s an obvious case where it has nothing to do with racism but just wanting a break from politics.

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                  8 months ago

                  The reason they want a break from politics is racism. You’re trying to tell me “they’re not racist, they’re just doing the thing racist propaganda wants them to do and feeling the way racist propaganda wants them to feel”. That’s not two different things.

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                    8 months ago

                    All politics doesn’t even relate to race. Sometimes people just get tired of politics.