• Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
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    It’s absolutely the tone. You’re not allowed to complain because we women have it worse. That’s the message that’s being sent across right now.

    Men do not experience body policing in even remotely similar ways to women.

    That is combative, dismissive, and by the way totally wrong. If the feminists in this thread actually gave a shit about men, they’d be listening, not lecturing. They came here to pick a fight.

    • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      No, people in this thread were saying that men and women suffer the same from body image policing. Which isn’t true. Like I said in my initial comment, if that offends you then you don’t understand how misogyny works.

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        people in this thread were saying that men and women suffer the same from body image policing.

        Show me the posts.

        And not “the same TYPE OF body image policing” because you’re insane if you don’t think that’s the case.

        Show me the posts where people say men face the same degree of body image policing

        And then explain why, even then, being combative and dismissive is in any way a good idea.

        Again, I think you came here to pick a fight, and that offends me because that’s how men’s issues are always silenced.

        • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          You can read through the thread yourself, there was a massive comment chain already here when I made my initial comment. I’m not going to read and summarize it for you lol.

          I think I’ve already more than explained how women’s body image issues are attached to systemic institutional issues that exist across society in my other comments. Feel free to debate against any points I’ve made, but I’m not going to continue reiterating myself.

          I came here to respond to anti feminist takes in the thread and to provide a counter to them.

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            I think I’ve already more than explained how women’s body image issues

            EXHAUSTIVELY, yes. Thank you. We get it. We agree.

            Now please, STOP

            • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              You’re talking like you have some kind of group authority or like this is specifically an anti feminist space that I’m disrupting. I’m allowed to comment here and will if I want to.

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                It’s not an anti-feminist space that you’re disrupting. It’s also not a feminist space where the topic of discussion is women’s problems. It’s a neutral space that happened to talk about men’s issues right now and y’all came in here with the “BUT WOMEN!!!” stuff and that really bothers me. Men really don’t have any safe spaces to talk about our issues, and as you can see it’s also difficult to even bring them up in neutral spaces without being shut down by people like you.

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                  I never shut anyone down. You can talk about men’s issues. This is not a space exclusively for men. This is an open forum, and I am allowed to counter misinformation I read here. I’m an equal member of this board, and misinformation about women here affects me. I have every single right to say something here when I come upon such things. You are free to make a community excluding the voices of women if you so choose, this is not your community and how it works here is not up to you.

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                    I never shut anyone down.

                    Bullshit.

                    Men do not experience body policing in even remotely similar ways to women.

                    This is you, coming into a thread, belittling and shutting down conversation about men’s issues.

                    You claim you’re here to refute certain other posts but I don’t see any posts claiming what you say, and even if they do exist you absolutely failed to even acknowledge that men do have similar problems here.

                    Not “I understand, I just want to contextualize this”

                    Not “I sympathize, because this is how women feel”

                    Just “fuck your problems, women have it worse”

                    So yeah, you have the right to say bullshit, and I have the right to call you out on it.