• ilmagico@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Prohibition never worked in history, not with alcohol, not cannabis, and definitely not with tobacco. Where I live few people still smoke, but that was achieved with education about the risks of tobacco, and a general cultural shift, not by banning tobacco.

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      1 year ago

      the same law is in i think entire EU. the point is to make smoking less attractive to people, making tobacco use lower and so lower burden of pulmonary diseases. it seems to be working

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      1 year ago

      The point is not to ban smoking, but to make it less appealing. This has worked extremely well in Finland, combined with education about the risks.

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      1 year ago

      You are kinda right but at the same time, everyone I knew who used to smoke menthols stopped doing so.

      I heard that Ukraine is trying to make weed legal so they must share your opinion about prohibition in some way.

      It’s just that nicotine is such an addictive drug with so little use for health. Also vapes and menthols are often marketed towards kids so there is that…

  • imrichyouknow@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Good move, cigarettes should’ve been made illegal IMO, it ruins lives without health benefits unlike some other substances, I’d take an entire generation without ever exposed to smoking than keeping the junkies happy.

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        1 year ago

        A nation can, but each civil servant can’t. Hospital resources are valuable, but I’m skeptical this will make enough of an impact on them to justify the effort.

        It’s their country, though, so that’s just “my 2 cents”.

        • A majority of these civil servants can’t help with the war effort in any way, though. And besides, people tend to forget that while a huge part of the population is under arms right now or working in the rapidly expanding arms industry, the majority of Ukranians are trying to live a normal life. Probably not to different from yours either, except you don’t have to hide from cruise missiles every night.

          This is a bit like the photo of a Kyiv McDonald’s that circulated a while back, that a lot of the more conservative crowd took as evidence that “it’s not even that bad over there”. No, life goes on and a country needs to have some normality to continue to function.

          And Susan from all of that, both of us have no idea how long this has been in the making. Might easily have been since before the war.

          • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            1 year ago

            A majority of these civil servants can’t help with the war effort in any way, though.

            Press X to doubt. Even hunting down leaks counts; they don’t have to fire rockets. I assume these are police people we’re talking about.

            And besides, people tend to forget that while a huge part of the population is under arms right now or working in the rapidly expanding arms industry, the majority of Ukranians are trying to live a normal life. Probably not to different from yours either, except you don’t have to hide from cruise missiles every night.

            Yes, that’s true. Taxes still need to be paid, shelves still need to be stocked and drunks still need to be put in the tank. Adding vape enforcement on top of that seems like a lot of bother that they don’t need.

            From now on, assume this is all my personal opinion. I’m still being engaged after pointing out it’s not my call, which is fine, but I don’t want someone to turn around and flame me about backseat driving.

  • zikk_transport2@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This is pure bullshit if true. That’s exactly how nicotine addiction work - if no flavored eliquids exist, people would stop vaping, right? Right???

    Kind reminder that VG, PG, sweeteners and flavours liquids are legal, cotton, wires and batteries are legal, nicotine itself is legal. 🤷😂