China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Tuesday that Beijing would “strengthen strategic cooperation” with Moscow during a meeting with his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov.
In comments reported by the RIA Novosti news agency, Wang said Beijing and Moscow would “provide each other with strong support.”
The meeting took place during a two-day visit by Lavrov to China. The two powers have improved their diplomatic ties since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, declaring a “no limits” partnership.
The West is “implementing unlawful sanctions toward a number of states, Russia is among them of course. This policy is starting to be actively applied toward [China] as well,” Lavrov said, referencing efforts by the US to restrict China’s access to key US-made technologies.
Sounds like a good reason to start moving Western manufacturing to countries like Vietnam.
Vietnam historically had a tighter relationship with the USSR and now Russia, than with China. The Viets have been fighting the Chinese off and on for hundreds of years, most recently in the 70s.
The answer is to move it out of Asia, with northern Mexico being especially appealing, for several reasons.
Vietnam and the U.S. are getting friendlier all the time. And, unfortunately, Asia is just cheaper for manufacturing than a lot of the rest of the world. The lowest bidder will almost always win.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-vietnam-elevate-ties-during-biden-visit-with-eye-china-2023-09-09/
This is an extremely reductionist take on Vietnam and ignores, y’know, the Vietnam War.
In fact, it’s a completely reductionist view on the entirety of ASEAN. Just as Canada and Mexico are forever coupled to America’s industrial gravity, ASEAN is forever coupled to China’s industrial gravity. You can have infighting, but you don’t piss off both your largest trade partner and the country that simultaneously supplies the market and expertise for your continued economic development. The ex-United States of the Philippines is an exception because of obvious reasons
Or how about moving it back to America?!?
And instead stop advancing AI and other high tech? Or where should the people working in manufacturing come from?
From the poor people who want to be middle class. My father was an autoworker till they moved it to Mexico. My whole neighborhood was autoworkers as a kid. High tech stuff can be built here with American labor.
Don’t forget the GOP is right in there too.
No one hates America more than the GOP!
Can we change the name of alaska to Texas and let them become part of Russia and just call it a day already.
Edit: i forgot to metion, we move most republicans but all MAGAidiot there before hand.
People down voting me are crazy. Giveing up alaska to russia while moving most republican there just makes sense if it were possible. Or is it that i didnt say all republicans? Im sorry to say but i know some decent republicans i wouldnt want gone.
as someone from the West: Fuck you China and Russia, fuck you very much!
Well that certainly will help
it helps me, a little venting you know
US has already sent about 10b toward moving TSMC s operations to American soil.
Not literally, but figuratively.
WWIII is kinda right in front of us.
ITT: we discuss how Russia has decided to become China’s Canada
Ukraine is China-USA proxy war
Nah. The EU is wayyyyyy more involved than they’d ever be in against China. The US isn’t even trying, mostly handing off cold war era surpluses, like WW3 levels of cluster munitions that were due to be decommissioned anyways.
Ukraine is a way for China to get cheap oil and mining, on top of 25% extra markups on electronics. Props up their ailing economy a bit longer.
The ease at which a simple looking invasion has turned into a multi-year quagmire is also not lost on the Chinese. Both Russia and China are looking at demographic shifts if not outright collapses, and a long bloody war that drives people out and kills a lot more won’t bode well. Xi may still try to pick a fight but it’s not clear what they stand to gain, while doing nothing means they can fleece the Russians while simultaneously watching the Indians slowly lose their military supplier. Bang the drum a little and then sit back and let the money flow in.
I accidentally read “ties” as “lies” at first and I’m not sure that’s not just as accurate tbh 🤷
Aint they already best buddies? Feel like I see the same post every year about china and russia
They have a pretty long history of publicly claiming to be best buddies but not-so-secretly despising each other and eyeing each other’s territory.
IIRC it was also commonly thought the Soviet Union and PRC were buddies because Communism but they each claimed to be the true successor to Marx’s ideology and denounced the other as inadequate.
Might be misremembering some parts, it’s been a while since I studied this.
Despite ideological relatedness they really weren’t in good terms. China and Soviet Union even had an armed border conflict in 1969. They’ve also had those old area disputes still in 2000s as well.
Edit: fixed wording
Thanks for posting about how China and Russia relations have increased, it reminded me that I need to watch the interview where Proffessor Richard Wolff talks about China and Russia, and to also post it on lemmy!
