• MentalEdge
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    6 months ago

    So then just make stuff that people want or need? Why turn it into a subscription-based “send me stuff” thing?

    Before “reduce, reuse, recycle” there is “plan”.

    Subscription stuff boxes, the ones that make hand over fist, are the ones that count on customers forgetting they are subbed, the same as digital subscriptions.

    Except now the consequence is actual physical stuff showing up at your door without you having “planned” for it. Which will likely just end up… Existing without a point now. Which is the opposite of “reduce”. The three Rs go in order of importance. Recycle is the last for a reason, because it’s the least effective but better than nothing.

    If you want to sell a thing, just sell a thing. None of this subscription bs, which is really just a way to vacuum up money from people being inefficient with their resources.

    Spending the energy to recycle something if you’re not gonna “re-” use it, is worse than sending it straight to the landfill in the first place. By delaying it ending up there you’ve just made its “carbon footprint” bigger for no reason.

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      6 months ago

      It’s already made but people didn’t buy it so now they stuff it in a mystery box to try and sell it cheaper

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        6 months ago

        Just sell it cheaper? Stuffing it in a mystery box to ship it all over is just kicking it down the road, but with a ton of shipping costs and carbon emissions.

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          The first step is to try to sell it cheaper but when no one buys it they can toss it in a mystery box or toss it in the landfill.

          For example Bethesda keeps sending me these discount emails to but their game merch. Now they are doing mystery boxes. For the cost of a shirt you can get a random shirt and two random items from their franchises. They are basically writing off that stuff without it going straight to the dump

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            That’s not a subscription-based “send me stuff” service.

            That’s a “buy a mystery box to get random merch” product, which I agree, is a decent way to get rid of unsold stock.

            It’s when you make people subscribe to turn it into recurring landfill churn that exploits people’s tendencies to forget to unsub when they lose interest in something that’s a problem.

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      6 months ago

      You had me until all that utterly stupid tripe about something not sitting in a landfill having an increasing carbon footprint… That is … just SO fucking dumb.

      A knickknack sitting on someones’ shelf is ABSOLUTELY NOT “increasing its carbon footprint”. The thing has already been created. The carbon footprint has long since been established, and it’s BETTER to rot on a shelf as a knickknack than literally rotting in a landfill.

      This is not a defense of the horrible practices of creating all the junk in the first place, just pushing back against the moronic hate on recycling.

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        The point they are making is if it ends up in a landfill anyway, then you’ve wasted more energy/resources recycling it.

        If it stays on your shelf, that’s not what they’re talking about.

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        It’s in quotes because the “carbon footprint” is a bs metric to begin with.

        The point is that spending energy on something that won’t be used to do something useful, is spending energy on nothing, and therefore a waste of energy.

        It would have been better to send the material into a landfill sooner, because delaying it just cost more resources for no benefit.