I just don’t see how the far right can rise or how they can win. The odds are so stacked against them. Is this something to actually be worried about ?

The reason I ask this is because I am a leftist and if your using lemmy I am going to assume you are to. I feel like this “the far right is rising” narrative is an attempt by the neo liberal establishment to trick class focused leftist into supporting the status quo as a bulwark against a far right rise.

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    Capitalist structures are hierarchical and thus more amenable to fascism than equitable socialist structures, so the idea that “supporting the status quo” will help against a far right rise is laughable.

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      I disagree a little, a lot of what the far right advocates for are contradicted by the current capitalist structure that rules the world.

      Tradition for one, a lot of traditions are simply incompatible with capitalism, for example you are technically not supposed to have your business open on Sundays if you are a Christian, but Christians have stopped doing this because if they just didn’t open on one day of the week they would get completed by the secular business that did.

      Having a woman stay home and support the family, having women not work makes no sense from the perspective of the capitalist class

      Having children to begin with in a capitalist system having kids makes no sense, they cost so much money to raise and you won’t be able to see them because you have to work for your rich overlords

      the far right wants to purge LGBT+ people, LGBT+ are over represented among the capitalist class and even the ones who are not LGBT+ still support the movement just look at pride month

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        Tradition for one, a lot of traditions are simply incompatible with capitalism, for example you are technically not supposed to have your business open on Sundays if you are a Christian, but Christians have stopped doing this because if they just didn’t open on one day of the week they would get completed by the secular business that did.

        which proves that their values are those of capitalism, not of “tradition”

        Having a woman stay home and support the family, having women not work makes no sense from the perspective of the capitalist class

        if population continues to decline, it absolutely would make sense to capitalists to keep women at home as incubators

        Having children to begin with in a capitalist system having kids makes no sense, they cost so much money to raise and you won’t be able to see them because you have to work for your rich overlords

        which is why it might not make sense to you, but it makes perfect sense to the capitalists, who need more workers, and don’t care how much time with their parents they get as toddlers, and who control the media and the education systems, which they use to socialise everyone from birth with the idea of having “the perfect family” with “2.5 kids”, but also don’t provide good sex education, nor family planning services, nor a society that is welcoming to alternative choices, like not having kids, or adopting older kids.

        the far right wants to purge LGBT+ people, LGBT+ are over represented among the capitalist class

        what the actual fuck?

        and even the ones who are not LGBT+ still support the movement just look at pride month

        pride month (or the aspect of it you’re alluding to) is the perfect example of capitalists willing to do anything for a profit. The idea that capitalism favours queer people is beyond laughable.

        So no, there is no contradiction because they have no core value other than making money at all cost.

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          pride month (or the aspect of it you’re alluding to) is the perfect example of capitalists willing to do anything for a profit. The idea that capitalism favors queer people is beyond laughable.

          I see people say this a lot. You never see billionaires pander to white people even though they are the majority of America, you never see big brands pander to Christians even though there are more Christians then LGBT people in America.

          Also about population decline posing a threat for the capitalist future profits. One word

          Immigration

          Instead of trying to convince people to have kids you could easier bring people over on Visas. Kids take at least 18 years to become workers meanwhile an immigrant comes read to work. It would also mean you pay less taxes for schools.

          You seem to imply the rich are trying to cut people’s access to contraception l do not think this is true.

          https://www.reuters.com/world/us/companies-offering-abortion-travel-benefits-us-workers-2022-06-24/

          Look at all the companies that cover the cost of (or at least the travel cost of) abortions. Basically every big company is on the list.

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            You never see billionaires pander to white people even though they are the majority of America

            a minute ago it was

            White people are on the verge of extinction, they are losing bad.

            you really need more practice, your trolling skills are piss poor, bigot.

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              Are you saying I am a bigot against white people ? What group was I being bigoted against ?

              Also White people being the majority of America is (for now) the truth. It’s just a fact no less disputable then vaccines don’t cause autism.

              They won’t be for much longer but once again that is just the truth.