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      Propaganda cold war. The only way for ordinary people to find the grain of truth in all of this is to read many diverse sources and always try to be clear about who writes / sponsors the article and what their agenda is. To me there is really no difference between US and Russian methods and propaganda and NO justification for US moral superiority whatsoever. That being said, the guy was probably poisoned which I of course condemn, and Russia is an authoritarian regime that I would not chose to live in. Also, Bellingcat is NATO propaganda and probably has western intelligence sources (just look at the level of their intel, including cell phone tracking data etc.) Can / should the West do something about the authoritarian state in Russia? Lead by example. And let Russians sort it out for themselves. They don’t need or want western intervention - the only people that want it are western educated nationalists like Navalny who want to sell off the country to western investors (á la Yeltsin). I condemn his poisoning and imprisoning people for political reasons in a broad sense.

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    I’m what the authoritarian leftists here think of this. is it just US propaganda? or is this a fascists conspiracy? Or is it legitimate? Do you think that the state has a right try to silence alternative natives? (do these mean justify the ends)

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      authoritarian leftists

      why do you put this together? let me guess, authoritarian and not “free” only bc not trying to defense freedom of capitals movement or freedom to be employed by sweatshops?

      as for such conflicts between different camps of elites, they are barely interesting to me. So doesn’t matter if it is propaganda or conspiracy or whatever

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        No I mean the most of the anarchist I know are not very supportive of the Chinese or Russian state, but the Marxist/communist (not sure what word to use) are supportive.

        such a mess 🤦‍♀️

        I don’t like being called a mess for curiosity. Could you please refrane from attacking me personal. Thanks.

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          People need to understand it is not as much when-ether we are economic left/right as big issue but rather this whole fiasco has much more to do with authoritarianism vs liberal democracies instead. Authoritarianism is what is really bad here regardless.

          If you look at China under the CCP in 2021 they are very hyper-capitalist (even more so than the US) and are borderline feudal rn with the have’s and have not’s there. But still are authoritarian.