- cross-posted to:
- religiousfruitcake@lemy.lol
- cross-posted to:
- religiousfruitcake@lemy.lol
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The worst part is that many interpretations of the bible are completely compatible with modern science and vaccines in the same way (almost) all Christians now believe in the Heliocentric model. At this point its not even the bible that is the problem, instead its the pastors.
Some random
cult leaderpastor: YoU hAvE tO ReAd ThE bIbLe LiTeRaLlY Also some random pastor: “This verse from the Bible is not a contradiction to what I just said, you have to read between the lines”In catholic circles it’s more like: “Don’t read the bible, you don’t have the proper toolset and knowledge to understand. Come to church, we’ll explain it to you and leave out the bits we don’t like.”
“Oh, and while you’re there, make sure to put some money in the box we pass around. That is before you put money in the other box to touch our fancy cross. And after you put money in the other other box to light a candle.”
Goddamn Ferengi.
You are forgetting that The Bible is written (new Testament at least) after Christ’s death. Therefore The Bible itself is written by a political organisation.
DING
And even if you read between the lines you’ll get a dozen different readings from a dozen different people.
Yes
The problem is religious texts are generally vague and come from cultures hundreds or thousands of years ago. That lets people claim they speak for god or know “the truth” and cherry pick and twist meanings until they get the answer they want. I’ve listened in on bible studies where they pick over the tiniest word and inflate it into a huge story. They’d make all sorts of assumptions about it “This is what they meant!” I’d be thinking “Really? You got all of that out of one word that can be interpreted a number of ways?”
Yep, but it also means its there fault for choosing to ignore science because of a human “error”. Its not even “gods word” at that point, its just another humans opinions.
I grew up in a fairly conservative Christian home and was taught that God gives humans the intelligence to use science. There was no big disconnect between science and Christianity. This was the 1980s though…
I grew up in the 90s and in Mexico and I was taught the same thing. I still didn’t end up religious but that’s because my family always pushed for critical thinking and was pro science. Tbf they also grew up in an age and area where they saw older family legit die of shit that was preventable with medicine that might not have existed yet or was unavailable in their poor town.
Things like religion give frameworks on how to live and guide moral choices, science is a tool for living. Science won’t tell you if the death penalty is right or wrong, if there should be limits to what people can say, etc. Religion won’t tell you how old the earth is, why people get sick, etc.
But it does though… All religions pass descriptive statements about the world like “earth sits atop the backs of elephants which stand on the back of a huge turtle” and so on.
Sure, religions do pass normative statements (i.e., statements about what you ought to do), but they try to objectify those too.
Science gives you color photography.
Can we take a second to appreciate how cool film is? Tell your ancestors you can capture a perfect likeness of someone by suspending silver in animal fat and exposing it to light. Imagine how that conversation goes.
The right side is totally inaccurate. There’s also a lot of child rape that is going on, along with the thoughts and prayers.
You can’t post child rape on lemmy
And exploiting the same children to push their religion. A lot of services, like help for the disabled, are heavily outsourced to churches, so they double as a recruitment agency. Churches even started to provide services to those that are victims of sexual assault and human trafficing, which lead to the rise of the argument “porn will lead to increase of human trafficing”.
Bottom right should be coffins.
Believe it or not, a majority of scientists in the United States believe in a higher power according to Pew.
This is about the practice, not the practitioners.
When I read your message, my takeaway is, “Science as a process is so reliable that you can take irrational beings who believe in a ghost father, teach them the scientific method and generate provable rational outcomes that yield progress.”
The rational ‘machine’ is what matters, I could not care less about the irrational thoughts of the ‘gears’.
TLDR, People are irrational, yep, even scientists. Thank goodness even irrational beings can follow a rational process.
Yeah but they don’t use it to do their job.
Their thesis director?
Isaac Newton was a christian. Seems like theres room to believe and also be awesome in science. But maybe its as rare as the Newtons of history are
Thoughts and prayers
God is change
